Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by sandinista » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:12 am

Schneibster wrote:
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Schneibster wrote:Occupy isn't against capitalism.
which is why it'll never achieve anything.
Bullshit. It's already achieved something.

We're now talking about the income gains of the top 1% since 1979 and the people who will be voting next November are listening closely.
bullshit yourself. "we've" been "talking" about income inequality for years, this is nothing new. haha, voting for who? :console:
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:20 am

sandinista wrote:haha, voting for who?
I have nothing to say to people who don't bother to exercise the franchise but that I think it's foolish not to.
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sandinista wrote:haha, voting for who?
I have nothing to say to people who don't bother to exercise the franchise but that I think it's foolish not to.
good luck with that. The franchise :roll:
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:35 am

Chickenshits don't vote.
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:47 am

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sandinista wrote:haha, voting for who?
I have nothing to say to people who don't bother to exercise the franchise but that I think it's foolish not to.
Read too much heinlein have we?

Seriously, when there are no candidates that are worthy of my suffrage, nor any bad enough that I'd vote for anything just to try and block them, I tend to vote with my feet and not bother going, since abstentions get more attention and actual recognition than blank and null votes.
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:52 am

I write them and I get responses, and not just "thanks we got your shit" either. I was on a con-call Wednesday nite with my congresscritter complaining about his support for methyl iodide which they're trying to replace the toxic methyl bromide with. Dunno how much good I did but there were other folks on there hitting him on it too in order to counterbalance the farmers trying to get him to vote yes on it without looking too close. If your congresscritter don't know the score how they gonna know what to do?

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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:03 am

given that my rep is an apparatchik totally infeodated to her party, and that, since I'm not a member of said party and disagree with the line on a number of points, I can shower her with observations and suggestions, that will fall on deaf ears as soon as it doesn't fit her own partisan politics.
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:22 am

Svartalf wrote:given that my rep is an apparatchik totally infeodated to her party, and that, since I'm not a member of said party and disagree with the line on a number of points, I can shower her with observations and suggestions, that will fall on deaf ears as soon as it doesn't fit her own partisan politics.
The farmers in my area beat up on this guy about pesticide regulation all the time. It's necessary that there be a countervailing force to oppose theirs or these really gnarly pesticides will be used a couple miles from my house (and if they spray a fifty thousand acre field with a fumigant, friend, let me assure you that a couple miles is not nearly fucking far enough).

Find someone to oppose her, or primary her (dunno how that works in France but whatever, it's democratic so there has to be a means of opposition). If it cramps your style that much, move. I did.

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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by sandinista » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:25 am

Schneibster wrote:Chickenshits don't vote.
sheep vote...chickenshit sheep.
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:36 am

Oppose my rep? sure... the other party is even worse. As for primaries... we're barely starting to get those for presidentials, it will take decades before they are applied to the nomination of lower echelon candidates.
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:50 am

Freedom ain't free and it's always the long fight. If it wasn't it woulda got solved before we were born and the world would be all perfect and shit. ;)
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by sandinista » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:07 am

Freedom ain't free? Are you a caricature? :dunno:
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:13 am

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Feck wrote:Nope you can say you are a communist or very far left in the UK and they won't ban the sale of your books or drive you out of the entertainment industry .
Depends on the intended market. If Boris Johnson admitted to being a communist his life would be ruined for instance. :smoke:
Mainly because it would contadict his entire past history...

In much the same way, my life at Rationalia would be ruined if I confessed to being a Rechabite...
While your becoming a city slicker contradicts the Law of Jehonadab, nothing prevents you from being among his descent.

Now, if you were referring to the teetotallers... but no, you wouldn't. and Jehonadab forbade only wine, not grain products.
I was actually referring to the teetotallers... At least in Oz, they were once a fairly influential body, the Rechabites. My Aunt was one, bless her...
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:17 am

Seth wrote:
Schneibster wrote:Is Seth doing the "commies are teh evul bekuz they are teh athiest" bit again?
"Again?" Sorry, not something I've ever said. I'm merely pointing out that Communists, who are evil, are also Atheists, and that their atheism is a direct cause of the deaths of 100 million people at their hands.
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Re: Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:24 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Seth wrote:
Schneibster wrote:Is Seth doing the "commies are teh evul bekuz they are teh athiest" bit again?
"Again?" Sorry, not something I've ever said. I'm merely pointing out that Communists, who are evil, are also Atheists, and that their atheism is a direct cause of the deaths of 100 million people at their hands.
Bullshit.
Absolutely.

It may well be true that their absolutist vision of politics was involved, but this does not correlete with atheism per se...
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