Occupy Movement Links To Communism?

[sandinista]

How is that different from any other politician?



Most politicians don't march a hundred million people off to the death camps.


Which ones have, exactly?

Don't you know by now Zilla? Numbers, schmumbers. Just make that shit up and spit it out your ass. 100 million?? 500 million...whatever. Nice imagination you have seth, even allows you to invent
"stats" to bad you can't back anything you say up. You can save the link to some anti communist/ludicrous/bs web page too btw.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

First off, re the "all atheists", may I remind you that the Canard Line has a terrible record, safety wise?

Are you disputing the fact that Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were all Atheists? Are you disputing the fact that together, they murdered more than 100 million people, many of them religious people who all three despised and were determined to eliminate from society? Really? Or did you simply misinterpret the sentence because your "I want what's yours, so fuck you" ideological delusion has driven you over the brink of insanity?

And your slavish parroting of the "I've got mine, fuck you" line shows whom you worship.

Does it? Or are you merely making irrational inferences based on the "I want what's yours, so fuck you" ideology you worship that causes you to post lies about others?

You will lie about that, but you can't hide the fact.

Again, which politicians, specifically, do I "worship" and what is your evidence that I do so? Put up or shut up, liar.

Seeth, you don't want to start down the put up or shut path, you fail at that miserably. As for the bad boys, atheism was a thing they shared, certainly, but religion was shared by Hitler, Mussolini, Attilla the Hun, Vlad the Impaler, Kemal Attaturk, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Geronimo, Ramses II, Oliver Cromwell, Eric the Red, Ivan the Terrible, etc. So if you're looking for people who do shitty things, religion is the criteria you should look for, not atheism.

Dumbass.

[Seth]

How is that different from any other politician?



Most politicians don't march a hundred million people off to the death camps.


Which ones have, exactly?

Don't you know by now Zilla? Numbers, schmumbers. Just make that shit up and spit it out your ass. 100 million?? 500 million...whatever. Nice imagination you have seth, even allows you to invent
"stats" to bad you can't back anything you say up. You can save the link to some anti communist/ludicrous/bs web page too btw.

Why? Because it demolishes the reputation of Socialism? Facts are facts, and Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot alone murdered more than 100 million people in the last century. Deny it all you like, it's still the truth, and the Road of Bones and the Killing Fields prove it.

Because you're a Marxist, you have to deny the truth because it's fatal to your dogmatic beliefs.

[Seth]

First off, re the "all atheists", may I remind you that the Canard Line has a terrible record, safety wise?

Are you disputing the fact that Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were all Atheists? Are you disputing the fact that together, they murdered more than 100 million people, many of them religious people who all three despised and were determined to eliminate from society? Really? Or did you simply misinterpret the sentence because your "I want what's yours, so fuck you" ideological delusion has driven you over the brink of insanity?

And your slavish parroting of the "I've got mine, fuck you" line shows whom you worship.

Does it? Or are you merely making irrational inferences based on the "I want what's yours, so fuck you" ideology you worship that causes you to post lies about others?

You will lie about that, but you can't hide the fact.

Again, which politicians, specifically, do I "worship" and what is your evidence that I do so? Put up or shut up, liar.

Seeth, you don't want to start down the put up or shut path, you fail at that miserably.

Put up or shut up, liar.

As for the bad boys, atheism was a thing they shared, certainly, but religion was shared by Hitler, Mussolini, Attilla the Hun, Vlad the Impaler, Kemal Attaturk, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Geronimo, Ramses II, Oliver Cromwell, Eric the Red, Ivan the Terrible, etc. So if you're looking for people who do shitty things, religion is the criteria you should look for, not atheism.

Two Wrongs Make a Right Fallacy there 'Zilla. The point is not whether people of religion have perpetrated heinous and callous murders and exterminations in the past, the only salient point is whether Atheists have ALSO done so, which they have, which fact reveals their feet of clay and the weaknesses in their ideology, and your arguments. If you run the numbers I believe you'll find that Atheists have killed more than 100 million people in the last century, which outstrips all of the deaths attributed to the people you mention combined in the total historical period covering their existences.

Dumbass.

Fuckwit.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You love money more than life itself, so don't play the put up or shut game.

And you're the one with the Two Wrongs stupidity, pointing to non-religious people when the vast majority of dickheads were religious.

[sandinista]

Why? Because it demolishes the reputation of Socialism?

Uh...no...because it's not true.

Facts are facts, and Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot alone murdered more than 100 million people in the last century.

only the "facts" you pull out of your ass. I don't think you know the definition of the word "fact". Stalin and/or Mao did not "murder" 100 million people. FAIL. Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

deny it all you like, it's still the truth

actually, it's not.

Because you're a Marxist, you have to deny the truth because it's fatal to your dogmatic beliefs.

No, I deny your "ass facts"...you know...the "facts" you pull from your ass, not only are they untrue, but they have the stench of dogma, propaganda and blindness. You calling someone "dogmatic"..hahaha

[Seth]

You love money more than life itself, so don't play the put up or shut game.

Prove it. Put up or shut up, liar.

And you're the one with the Two Wrongs stupidity, pointing to non-religious people when the vast majority of dickheads were religious.

That hardly excuses the non-religious dickheads, now does it? Two wrongs do not make a right, a philosophical statement and logical truth that seems beyond your ken.

[Seth]

Why? Because it demolishes the reputation of Socialism?

Uh...no...because it's not true.

True, but only because socialism has no reputation to speak of to begin with, it's an evil fucking ideology held by the lazy, cupidinous thieves who think they are entitled to steal the labor of others to serve their own greed.

Facts are facts, and Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot alone murdered more than 100 million people in the last century.

only the "facts" you pull out of your ass. I don't think you know the definition of the word "fact".

Typical Alinsky-style smear and misdirection.

Stalin and/or Mao did not "murder" 100 million people. FAIL.

You think not? Well then, how many people did Stalin and his underlings and the Stalinists who followed him kill? How many did Mao and his underlings, and those Maoists who followed him kill?

You dispute the number, then go right ahead and tell us what the correct number is.

Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

So, you're denying that Pol Pot was a Maoist revolutionary who presided over the execution of between 1.7 and 2.5 million Cambodians between 1963 and 1998?

Typical. Deny historical facts and lie through your teeth.

deny it all you like, it's still the truth

actually, it's not.

Actually, it is. Also, Che was a murderous thug and got what he deserved far too late to save the hundreds of people he PERSONALLY murdered.

Because you're a Marxist, you have to deny the truth because it's fatal to your dogmatic beliefs.

No, I deny your "ass facts"...you know...the "facts" you pull from your ass, not only are they untrue, but they have the stench of dogma, propaganda and blindness. You calling someone "dogmatic"..hahaha

As I said, pure Alinsky denial, disinformation and disparagement. Typical. And lame.

[Svartalf]

Nope you can say you are a communist or very far left in the UK and they won't ban the sale of your books or drive you out of the entertainment industry .

Depends on the intended market. If Boris Johnson admitted to being a communist his life would be ruined for instance.

Mainly because it would contadict his entire past history...

In much the same way, my life at Rationalia would be ruined if I confessed to being a Rechabite...

While your becoming a city slicker contradicts the Law of Jehonadab, nothing prevents you from being among his descent.

Now, if you were referring to the teetotallers... but no, you wouldn't. and Jehonadab forbade only wine, not grain products.

[Svartalf]

Trying to terrify dumb Merkins by invoking the fear of Godless Communists hiding in our midst .......

Obviously they'll hide and use every imaginable deception to achieve power. Many left-leaning intellectuals are closet communists only afraid of the outcry but fully embracing the idealogy, at least here in the UK....I would imagine it is the same in the US?

In other words they are fucking cowards. I have more respect for Che and Fidel, at least they put their asses on the line for their ideology.

Better a fucking coward than a hero with no sex life, that's my motto

[Schneibster]

Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

He was a Maoist communist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Saloth Sar (30 November 1925 – 15 April 1998),[1][2] better known as Pol Pot, (Khmer: ប៉ុល ពត), was a Cambodian Maoist revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge[3] from 1963 until his death in 1998

First sentence in the article.

I don't like Seth any better than you do, but let's try to stick to reality here.

[sandinista]

Actually, it is. Also, Che was a murderous thug and got what he deserved far too late to save the hundreds of people he PERSONALLY murdered.

So...I suppose you must think that US or Canadian, or British soldiers have personally murdered hundreds 'cough cough hack hack' thousands of people and deserve to be executed.

[sandinista]

Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

He was a Maoist communist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Saloth Sar (30 November 1925 – 15 April 1998),[1][2] better known as Pol Pot, (Khmer: ប៉ុល ពត), was a Cambodian Maoist revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge[3] from 1963 until his death in 1998

First sentence in the article.

I don't like Seth any better than you do, but let's try to stick to reality here.

Hes was a nutter, not a Marxist or a Communist. wiki? really? The same can be said about western "democracies"...they "call" themselves "democracies"...doesn't mean they are. BTW...never said I "liked" or didn't "like" anyone, and "reality" isn't reflected too well in a short wiki quote.

[Schneibster]

Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

He was a Maoist communist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Saloth Sar (30 November 1925 – 15 April 1998),[1][2] better known as Pol Pot, (Khmer: ប៉ុល ពត), was a Cambodian Maoist revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge[3] from 1963 until his death in 1998

First sentence in the article.

I don't like Seth any better than you do, but let's try to stick to reality here.

Hes was a nutter, not a Marxist or a Communist. wiki? really?

Yep. I find there is an unpleasant similarity between people who don't think Wikipedia is a reliable source. They also tend to dismiss the Encyclopedia Britannica. I have no time for such.

[redunderthebed]

Pol Pot has nothing to do whatsoever with communism, Marxism or Socialism.

He was a Maoist communist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot

Saloth Sar (30 November 1925 – 15 April 1998),[1][2] better known as Pol Pot, (Khmer: ប៉ុល ពត), was a Cambodian Maoist revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge[3] from 1963 until his death in 1998

First sentence in the article.

I don't like Seth any better than you do, but let's try to stick to reality here.

Hes was a nutter, not a Marxist or a Communist. wiki? really? The same can be said about western "democracies"...they "call" themselves "democracies"...doesn't mean they are. BTW...never said I "liked" or didn't "like" anyone, and "reality" isn't reflected too well in a short wiki quote.

I agree with him i mean i suspect unlike seth and other anti-commo fuckwits i've actually studied the bad guys associated with communism so i guess i would know more than people who just throw around pol pot and stalin as a smear campaign.

If you look at stalin and pol pot they were no different whatsoever to any capitalist dictator they just happen to use communism as a vehicle for their power not too dissimilar as one would use the military or mass parties of other ideologies to seize power.

There is a list of capitalist dictators as long as my arm that have done despicable things and killed millions and on the whole killed more than stalin mao and pol pot. I mean ol' hitler gave them a good leg up in those stakes and that isn't even scratching the surface.

However their belief in capitalism is NEVER mentioned ever ever ever. I suspect because that would mean that capitalism is put in a bad light and its in the ruling classes interest to put communism in a bad light and the minimise the bad effects capitalism has on humanity.