Is ageism the last 'acceptable' ism?

[Rum]

They should move into multi-occupancy care homes and there would be no housing shortage. This isn't the system it is people hogging resources because they are afraid of the grave - like mini-pharoahs they want to take everything with them.

Multi-occupancy care homes are ridiculously expensive. People should be in their own homes when reach the end. The problem is the system, not old people. And stop smoking - do you realise how much it costs the rest of us to look after lung cancer patients? And I'm not talking about the NHS.

Crumple ate too much fat - he has heart stuff going on. We should fine him for eating too many burgers.

[Atheist-Lite]

They should move into multi-occupancy care homes and there would be no housing shortage. This isn't the system it is people hogging resources because they are afraid of the grave - like mini-pharoahs they want to take everything with them.

Multi-occupancy care homes are ridiculously expensive. People should be in their own homes when reach the end. The problem is the system, not old people. And stop smoking - do you realise how much it costs the rest of us to look after lung cancer patients? And I'm not talking about the NHS.

Crumple ate too much fat - he has heart stuff going on. We should fine him for eating too many burgers.

If I'm not allowed to grow old why should anyone else think they are?

[Jason]

Atheism is the last acceptable ism.
Agnosticism is the last unacceptable ism.
I think the type of ageism we see now has only developed from the 50s and 60s, a relatively new phenomenon.

Why is agnosticism unacceptable?

[Cunt]

These days racism is a no no, so is sexism. We stopped making fun of people with disabilities some time ago now. And yet here and elsewhere older people seem to be fair game.

Old people like to complain.

Racism is rampant, sexism is still prolific. People with disabilities still have to put up with 'retard' being used and accepted as an insult, or someone looking past a person in a wheelchair to the friend with them and saying 'what would he/she like to eat?

Is it possible that old fuckers are a bit over-sensitive?

My dad couldn't find a job when he was 63 (for reasons I am sure you can guess), but was put through courses on how to find a job by EI (government agency providing unemployment insurance) until he finally gave up trying to get the benefits he had paid for for over forty years.
Is that age-ism?

He couldn't get hired because no-one wanted to train someone and have to train someone new after 2 years (best case)
He was put through those courses because that is what the agency decided to do as a way to help people get off EI.
He didn't get his benefits because he stopped trying.

Those don't look like age-ism to me. I mean, it looks like horseshit in a number of ways, but not age-ism. The point is, it sure DID look like age-ism to him.

I think of 'old' as a compliment (I mean, think of the alternative, Zombie Rum) and then statements like 'old people like to complain' take on a different character.

I think old people DO like to complain. It's because they have had time and perspective to think deeply about subjects, and feel it is important to make wrongs known 'out loud'.

[Exi5tentialist]

My dad couldn't find a job when he was 63 (for reasons I am sure you can guess)

Did he have very right wing opinions and just went around stereotyping people?

[tattuchu]

Atheism is the last acceptable ism.
Agnosticism is the last unacceptable ism.
I think the type of ageism we see now has only developed from the 50s and 60s, a relatively new phenomenon.

Why is agnosticism unacceptable?

Acceptable or unacceptable, there's no way to say for sure either way












Sorry Serious discussion may recommence...

[Cunt]

My dad couldn't find a job when he was 63 (for reasons I am sure you can guess)

Did he have very right wing opinions and just went around stereotyping people?

I don't really know the difference between (political) right and left, so I couldn't say. I can say that I don't know his politics, so he likely didn't go around with either kind of opinion very loudly.

Or is this some kind of insult to someone that I am missing?

[maiforpeace]

Ageism works both ways, young people can also be discriminated against.

[Exi5tentialist]

My dad couldn't find a job when he was 63 (for reasons I am sure you can guess)

Did he ask a lot of stupid questions and draw the wrong inferences all the time?

[Cunt]

I don't really know. Why do you ask?

[Atheist-Lite]

Hearing declines, cognitive declines with age but force of personality doesn't. That's why the world is full of grumpy old men. Ageism isn't the problem, age is. Old people need to have a forward looking vocabularly, a very few do, but instead most are looking backwards and playing the victim card despite having had the best years of this twilight civilization. They've cunning from being lifelong survivors and see how many 'rights' blacks and the disabled have got out of genuine grievances so pretend to be the undertrodden whilst all the time making no effort to move forwards and to the side in their remaining years, there is work if you are 63 when you decide that janitors job is enough and don't want to be a chief executive with his own luxury jet.

[JimC]

Actually, I am not being discriminated against, quite the reverse. There is currently quite a shortage of young teachers qualified to teach senior physics and maths, so, at least in terms of retirement, I can keep teaching until I pop my clogs as I teach the principles of anti-differentiating complex polynomials...

[apophenia]

Atheism is the last acceptable ism.
Agnosticism is the last unacceptable ism.

I rather suspect centrism will outlive both.

Now I'll exit fast, as either side I take, I'm under foot of the other.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I have firmly crossed the line from Miss to Ma'am. Invisibility is sure to follow.

The best way to avoid getting older is to die young.

[HomerJay]

Atheism is the last acceptable ism.
Agnosticism is the last unacceptable ism.

I rather suspect centrism will outlive both.

Now I'll exit fast, as either side I take, I'm under foot of the other.

This is no centrism though.