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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by FBM » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:10 pm

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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by Seth » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:20 pm

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Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.
I watched that a few years ago. Those naughty soldier boys made her strip and gave her a 'shower'. :lol:
Oh for fuck's sake, they offer TOURS of the region nowadays. You just have to sign a release and wear a dosimeter and travel with a minder and clean your shoes. It's not THAT much radiation anymore, anywhere outside of the containment. You don't want to live there, but you won't get a life-dose just visiting.
I'm pretty sure it's not the same program Pord. This is a new Nature program that premiered last Sunday.

Seth, if you watch the program that's exactly what they seem to say...that, (so far) none of the wildlife is suffering adverse effects and that in fact, because humans are staying away for fear of radioactive poisoning the animals are thriving.

A hunter's paradise. :smug:
Yup, on both counts.

I'm sure "the wildlife" has suffered and that there are a lot of animal corpses out there, but as species, it's perfectly correct that radiation damage to DNA is self-eliminating from the gene pool. Those animals that were subject to such mutations, or to which fatal mutations happened, died. Probably in large numbers at first. But nature is hardy and animals tend to increase litter size in proportion to pack mortality, thus leaving things along long enough restored pack size.

The same would happen to humans in the event of global nuclear war. Many would die right away, many more would die in the first few years, but then the hardier of the species would quickly repopulate the planet.

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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by Jason » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:24 pm

Seth wrote:The same would happen to humans in the event of global nuclear war. Many would die right away, many more would die in the first few years, but then the hardier of the species would quickly repopulate the planet.
As zombies of course. :smoke:

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Post by Mallardz » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:28 pm

I for one also want to visit the site. I want to see what every city will be like after the Zombie breakout.
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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:34 pm

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Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.
Yep, seen those - I think they were the first widely disseminated images of the place that brought it back to the fore... very eerie photos, those.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:38 pm

It's the total number of Roentgens you get over years that would get you in that garden spot of Belarus. The researchers didn't wear protective clothing as long as they weren't digging into the ground.
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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by Schneibster » Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:55 pm

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Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.
Yep, seen those - I think they were the first widely disseminated images of the place that brought it back to the fore... very eerie photos, those.
Yeah, especially the houses with dolls and bedding abandoned in them and so forth.
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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by FBM » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:19 pm

Just watched the vid. :awesome:
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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:26 pm

What do wolves eat in The Yukon?
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Musk ox.
What do wolves eat in the Ukraine?
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European bison.
What do wolves eat in Missouri?
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Post by mistermack » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:18 pm

You can watch the entire 53 minute film here from the UK :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6sdQ59g ... re=related[/youtube]
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:06 pm

8-) viewable from the US. :tup: 8-)
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Post by MiM » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:25 pm

... and Finland, thank you. We just watched it with Ronja.

I got the feeling the producers had some problems getting their priorities straight. Was that anti nuclear or anti communist propaganda? or a high song to the Soviet model cities or to wildlife. Mostly it seemed to be high :dq: mixed up wit some good facts.

The radiation levels in the excluded zone are unacceptable to us, who expect to live to three times our natural age and often die of cancer, but it's really no surprise that this is not a problem for wild life, neither is a slightly higher rate of birth defects.
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Re: Radioactive Wolves.

Post by maiforpeace » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:28 pm

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What do wolves eat in Missouri?
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Is that what you're feeding them at the center? :o
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:31 pm

MiM wrote:... and Finland, thank you. We just watched it with Ronja.

I got the feeling the producers had some problems getting their priorities straight. Was that anti nuclear or anti communist propaganda? or a high song to the Soviet model cities or to wildlife. Mostly it seemed to be high :dq: mixed up wit some good facts.

The radiation levels in the excluded zone are unacceptable to us, who expect to live to three times our natural age and often die of cancer, but it's really no surprise that this is not a problem for wild life, neither is a slightly higher rate of birth defects.
Being somewhat distanced from the events I sailed over the possibly political aspects as filler. An "error" rate of 2-4% was quite remarkable, much higher had been expected.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:31 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
What do wolves eat in Missouri?
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Texas Rangers
Is that what you're feeding them at the center? :o
Well, they're not expected back in Texas until later today, so it will be while before anyone misses them. :levi:
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