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by FBM » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:31 am
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:FBM wrote:Ronja wrote:Thanks for the clip, FBM. The parts without the narrator's voice have an almost Stalker-like feeling to them. Tarkovskij was a genius.
My pleasure. I'm hoping that since it's PBS, the whole thing will eventually uploaded in sections.
Unless Congress throws PBS to the wolves.

A kind citizen will upload his/her own copy. Ah...it might even be available on some P2P sites already...brb...

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:35 am
Excellent.
The video is stunning to someone of my generation who grew up with the "radioactive wasteland" meme. Of course this was just a tiny bubble of trouble compared to the nuclear war I waited for most of my life.
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by FBM » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:38 am
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Excellent.
The video is stunning to someone of my generation who grew up with the "radioactive wasteland" meme. Of course this was just a tiny bubble of trouble compared to the nuclear war I waited for most of my life.
I'm at the tail end of that generation. We used to have to take cover under our nuclear attack-proof wooden desks once a month. That didn't end until I was in middle school.

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by FBM » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:40 am
Found the...um...source for the vid. Acquisition in progress.

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:42 am
FBM wrote:Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Excellent.
The video is stunning to someone of my generation who grew up with the "radioactive wasteland" meme. Of course this was just a tiny bubble of trouble compared to the nuclear war I waited for most of my life.
I'm at the tail end of that generation. We used to have to take cover under our nuclear attack-proof wooden desks once a month. That didn't end until I was in middle school.

I've sometimes wondered what a child suddenly transported from the 1880s would think if you expose him or her to the terrors we faced in the '60s. Knowing that two men had the power to nearly sterilize this planet, perhaps permanently, and that we could be vaporized in our sleep or worse, survive the initial attacks to face the aftermath.
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by FBM » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:45 am
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:FBM wrote:Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Excellent.
The video is stunning to someone of my generation who grew up with the "radioactive wasteland" meme. Of course this was just a tiny bubble of trouble compared to the nuclear war I waited for most of my life.
I'm at the tail end of that generation. We used to have to take cover under our nuclear attack-proof wooden desks once a month. That didn't end until I was in middle school.

I've sometimes wondered what a child suddenly transported from the 1880s would think if you expose him or her to the terrors we faced in the '60s. Knowing that two men had the power to nearly sterilize this planet, perhaps permanently, and that we could be vaporized in our sleep or worse, survive the initial attacks to face the aftermath.
And the gummit wonders why our generation is so

about their propaganda.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:47 am
FBM wrote:Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:FBM wrote:Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Excellent.
The video is stunning to someone of my generation who grew up with the "radioactive wasteland" meme. Of course this was just a tiny bubble of trouble compared to the nuclear war I waited for most of my life.
I'm at the tail end of that generation. We used to have to take cover under our nuclear attack-proof wooden desks once a month. That didn't end until I was in middle school.

I've sometimes wondered what a child suddenly transported from the 1880s would think if you expose him or her to the terrors we faced in the '60s. Knowing that two men had the power to nearly sterilize this planet, perhaps permanently, and that we could be vaporized in our sleep or worse, survive the initial attacks to face the aftermath.
And the gummit wonders why our generation is so

about their propaganda.
It was the reality that scared me. Enough nuclear weapons to remove life from the planet 32 times? There's a "Toy Accumulation Syndrome" there that needs studying.
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by Jason » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:25 pm
Schneibster wrote:Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.
I watched that a few years ago. Those naughty soldier boys made her strip and gave her a 'shower'.

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by maiforpeace » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:48 pm
FBM wrote:"The selected item is not currently available."

I'll give you access to my Infinity account if you can stream it.
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by Seth » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:48 pm
PordFrefect wrote:Schneibster wrote:Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.
I watched that a few years ago. Those naughty soldier boys made her strip and gave her a 'shower'.

Oh for fuck's sake, they offer TOURS of the region nowadays. You just have to sign a release and wear a dosimeter and travel with a minder and clean your shoes. It's not THAT much radiation anymore, anywhere outside of the containment. You don't want to live there, but you won't get a life-dose just visiting.
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by Jason » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:54 pm
Seth wrote:PordFrefect wrote:Schneibster wrote:Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.
I watched that a few years ago. Those naughty soldier boys made her strip and gave her a 'shower'.

Oh for fuck's sake, they offer TOURS of the region nowadays. You just have to sign a release and wear a dosimeter and travel with a minder and clean your shoes. It's not THAT much radiation anymore, anywhere outside of the containment. You don't want to live there, but you won't get a life-dose just visiting.
I think they just wanted to see her out of her suit.. dirty Ukrainians.

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by maiforpeace » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:54 pm
Seth wrote:PordFrefect wrote:Schneibster wrote:Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.
I watched that a few years ago. Those naughty soldier boys made her strip and gave her a 'shower'.

Oh for fuck's sake, they offer TOURS of the region nowadays. You just have to sign a release and wear a dosimeter and travel with a minder and clean your shoes. It's not THAT much radiation anymore, anywhere outside of the containment. You don't want to live there, but you won't get a life-dose just visiting.
I'm pretty sure it's not the same program Pord. This is a new Nature program that premiered last Sunday.
Seth, if you watch the program that's exactly what they seem to say...that, (so far) none of the wildlife is suffering adverse effects and that in fact, because humans are staying away for fear of radioactive poisoning the animals are thriving.
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by maiforpeace » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:02 pm
Zombie wolves.

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