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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:48 pm

The Good Lady Strange provoked this quandry to me tonight, but I was probably not the best person to ask, since I'm not particularly fond of children. So I thought I'd ask here since I know I'll get a range of interesting amusing and bizarre answers.

Why is it alright for a mother to give up her child for adoption for free, yet people would consider it wrong for that same woman to sell her child for a profit?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:50 pm

Audley Strange wrote:The Good Lady Strange provoked this quandry to me tonight, but I was probably not the best person to ask, since I'm not particularly fond of children. So I thought I'd ask here since I know I'll get a range of interesting amusing and bizarre answers.

Why is it alright for a mother to give up her child for adoption for free, yet people would consider it wrong for that same woman to sell her child for a profit?
Depends on the situation. If the kid went to a better home then I don't care about the money. If not, I'd shoot her and send the sprog to a foster home.
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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:56 pm

Certainly. So say that to purchase a child you had to go through the same stringent examinations as you do for adoption, you'd be fine with both the adoption company and the mother making a profit from it? As long as the child was cared for yes?

That was similar to my thoughts on the subject, I have to say.
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Post by Rum » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:59 pm

Its about the motivation of the mother as much as anything. Most give up children for adoption because they are very young (I used to process adoptions in my early career as a social worker) and they can't cope or don't want to at that age. If they got deliberately pregnant in order to sell the baby there would be moral outrage.

When you think about it though - there is a massive supply side shortage of babies - far more applicants than available kids. Logically what is wrong with it?

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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:09 pm

Well The Good Lady's point about it was this. If you turn children into a commodity then they would be increasingly devalued, which would mean that any for profit agency would only sell valuable kids, which in turn would lead to an increasingly large black market, which is to put it in her words, "dark as fuck".
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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:16 pm

Audley Strange wrote:The Good Lady Strange provoked this quandry to me tonight, but I was probably not the best person to ask, since I'm not particularly fond of children. So I thought I'd ask here since I know I'll get a range of interesting amusing and bizarre answers.

Why is it alright for a mother to give up her child for adoption for free, yet people would consider it wrong for that same woman to sell her child for a profit?
We have a case here in our county of a man trying to sell his child for $25.00-...clearly, that's not a huge profit, when he could probably make thousands more through some disreputable adoption agency.
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Post by hadespussercats » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:19 pm

But gestational surrogates, egg donors and such get paid for their services. Why is that okay, but paying for an adoption isn't?
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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:20 pm

hadespussercats wrote:But gestational surrogates, egg donors and such get paid for their services. Why is that okay, but paying for an adoption isn't?
Indeed...I wonder what answer a right to lifer has for that.
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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:23 pm

I think the foetophiles don't care as long as the child is born. After that "miracle", it's filthy with original sin.
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Post by hadespussercats » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:24 pm

I guess selling children is slavery-- but developing children, in part or in whole, is a service. You pay for the service, not the kid.
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Post by Ronja » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:32 pm

My bet is also slavery related: if it were legal to sell a kid, then how old a kid, and for what purpose... For once the slippery slope argument sounds convincing to me.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:58 pm

Audley Strange wrote:The Good Lady Strange provoked this quandry to me tonight, but I was probably not the best person to ask, since I'm not particularly fond of children. So I thought I'd ask here since I know I'll get a range of interesting amusing and bizarre answers.

Why is it alright for a mother to give up her child for adoption for free, yet people would consider it wrong for that same woman to sell her child for a profit?
Basically, for the same reason slavery is unacceptable.

The human person is not, or should not be allowed to be, in the realm of commerce and commodities that can be exchanged for money.
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Post by Schneibster » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:31 am

Svartalf wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Why is it alright for a mother to give up her child for adoption for free, yet people would consider it wrong for that same woman to sell her child for a profit?
Basically, for the same reason slavery is unacceptable.

The human person is not, or should not be allowed to be, in the realm of commerce and commodities that can be exchanged for money.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:50 am

Does anyone object if the child is put into a better situation and money changes hands during?
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Post by Schneibster » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:08 am

Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Does anyone object if the child is put into a better situation and money changes hands during?
Yes, if the child going is quid pro quo for the money changing hands. That's selling a human life. We need to be better than that.
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