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Re: The "I love military hardware" thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 28, 2009 11:39 am

Pioneer Attempts at Aerial Armament

Civilian enthusiasts in the United States were aware of the fact that without Government backing they could never progress beyond the novelty stage of flying. They continuously planned events calculated to impress or at least interest the military high command. This was often done with the aid of aeronautically minded Army personnel who willingly donated their services whenever possible to further the cause.
One of the most colorful of these demonstrations, which was to have a far reaching effect, was carried out before a crowd at Sheepshead Bay race track on Long Island, N. Y. in August 1910. A pusher plane piloted by Glenn Curtiss, an aviation pioneer second only to the Wrights, also carried 27-year-old Second Lt. Jacob E. Fickel, who had won a reputation as an expert marksman in his 3 years of military service since enlisting as a private.

All afternoon the tense crowd had been watching the antics of the flimsily constructed flying machines. The spectators had been promised an act that had never before been attempted, and they waited patiently as the young soldier climbed aboard carrying with him a regulation caliber .30 Springfield infantry rifle.

Lieutenant Fickel's intention was to fire the first shot from an airplane in flight at a target on the ground. Because of his proved marksmanship he was chosen to perform in the opening act of a drama the final outcome of which no one can even imagine.
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Re: The "I love military hardware" thread.

Post by AshtonBlack » Thu May 28, 2009 11:44 am

Sounds interesting G, how about a linky to the full story?

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Re: The "I love military hardware" thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 28, 2009 11:46 am

AshtonBlack wrote:Sounds interesting G, how about a linky to the full story?
I'm processing the book for the net right now. 675 pages in Volume I. :drool: I'll put a note here when the individual volumes are posted, or you can just visit ibiblio.org/hyperwar and check the "What's New" icon.
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Post by AshtonBlack » Thu May 28, 2009 11:50 am

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AshtonBlack wrote:Sounds interesting G, how about a linky to the full story?
I'm processing the book for the net right now. 675 pages in Volume I. :drool: I'll put a note here when the individual volumes are posted, or you can just visit ibiblio.org/hyperwar and check the "What's New" icon.
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Post by Feck » Thu May 28, 2009 11:52 am

Did he shoot the prop ?
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Post by AshtonBlack » Thu May 28, 2009 11:56 am

mrenutt4 wrote:Did he shoot the prop ?
It was a push plane. :whisper:

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 28, 2009 11:57 am

mrenutt4 wrote:Did he shoot the prop ?
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Post by Feck » Thu May 28, 2009 12:14 pm

You shoot way above the aim point if you shoot vertically ?
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Re: The "I love military hardware" thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 28, 2009 12:19 pm

mrenutt4 wrote:You shoot way above the aim point if you shoot vertically ?
Vertical, horizontal, you figure from the situation.

I think that angle was for the cameras rather than his actual position. He would have to lead the target, not shoot straight down on it.
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Post by Feck » Thu May 28, 2009 12:21 pm

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mrenutt4 wrote:You shoot way above the aim point if you shoot vertically ?
Vertical, horizontal, you figure from the situation.

I think that angle was for the cameras rather than his actual position. He would have to lead the target, not shoot straight down on it.
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Re: The "I love military hardware" thread.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu May 28, 2009 12:22 pm

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mrenutt4 wrote:You shoot way above the aim point if you shoot vertically ?
Vertical, horizontal, you figure from the situation.

I think that angle was for the cameras rather than his actual position. He would have to lead the target, not shoot straight down on it.
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Um, you have as much information as I do at this point.
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Re: The "I love military hardware" thread.

Post by Feck » Thu May 28, 2009 12:25 pm

Found it recoil of a .30 busts up a paper and string plane :levi:
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Re: The "I love military hardware" thread.

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:33 am

Possibly the deadliest weapon system ever deployed......

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Post by AshtonBlack » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:08 am

I'd say so. Did you see her not take nose rise into account? I bet her grouping was rubbish. :ddpan:

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:09 am

I'm sure she could improve but I wouldn't like to face a brigade of these amazons
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