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Re: Cache of guns stolen from LAPD

Post by Svartalf » Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:14 pm

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Zombie Gawdzilla wrote: You want my guns? Come try and take them.
You defeat your own argument there. You've clearly got a bit of the gunfighter delusion going on in your head.
You know that this attitude has been attested since at least 490 BC, with other cases in the late 1700s, and it never was tied to "gunfighters", especially since that concept did not make sense until the 1860s.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:39 pm

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Zombie Gawdzilla wrote: You want my guns? Come try and take them.
You defeat your own argument there. You've clearly got a bit of the gunfighter delusion going on in your head.
Nonsense. Gunfights were, on the whole, at least arguably fair fights. I don't do fair fights.
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:41 pm

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What? You wouldn't come for them yourself. Piffle, I say! (I can't believe "piffle" is in the online dictionary.
Thats the libertarian idiocy of thinking they are independent and self-reliant, me I believe you should never do anything that can't be done better in a group preferable professionals who are trained to do that sort of thing
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Post by Cunt » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:51 pm

MrJonno, isn't it perfectly okay for Zombie Gawdzilla to have guns? He has the requisite professional training...For that matter, why not allow anyone who will pass the required tests to own guns? What is the difference between Z.Gawdzilla (Ret.) and young Z.Gawdzilla (plunking dead guys from the deck of a ship)?
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:00 pm

I don't like the presence of the military with guns in the UK either, far prefer they are abroad liberating/shooting people etc but if need to keep a few they keep their guns firmly under lock and key in barracks.

If you see a soldier in uniform(which is very rare , seen a couple at careers fairs) in the UK he/she is highly likely to be unarmed.

I'm 39 and I have never seen a handgun outside a musuem or on TV, seen a couple of submachine guns at an airport once and I've seen an American policeman with a gun holster which I assume had a gun it
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Post by Seth » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:33 pm

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This debate polarises it all into black and white it's not like that ,there are many shades of difference between anyone can have any guns they desire and nobody can own no guns at all ???
Having civilian guns for 'self defence' is a black and white issue, anyone found possessing one should be executed on the spot (well in theory they get a mandatory 5 years) but I suppose there is a chance they could be handing over them over but not very likely
The Brit fuckwits tried that back in 1775. Didn't work then, won't work now because the people won't stand for it and will simply rise up and kill people like you who try to enslave them. There are way more of us (gun owners) than there are of you (despots, tyrants and their sycophants) and push come to shove, we will be forced to kill you in order to protect our rights and freedoms.

And we can do it because we have the guns and you don't. More importantly, we have the determination to secure our liberty against your kind, no matter what the cost.

So, say what you want, think what you want, you're a meaningless cipher in the equation of liberty. You're nothing to those who value individual liberty. You're not a real threat to us because we have the might and the right to take and hold our freedom in spite of your pathetic and impotent protestations.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:37 pm

Cunt wrote:MrJonno, isn't it perfectly okay for Zombie Gawdzilla to have guns? He has the requisite professional training...For that matter, why not allow anyone who will pass the required tests to own guns? What is the difference between Z.Gawdzilla (Ret.) and young Z.Gawdzilla (plunking dead guys from the deck of a ship)?
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:43 pm

So, say what you want, think what you want, you're a meaningless cipher in the equation of liberty. You're nothing to those who value individual liberty. You're not a real threat to us because we have the might and the right to take and hold our freedom in spite of your pathetic and impotent protestations.
Yeah because live revolves around 'liberty' and 'freedom', its a nice luxury but meaningless until you have secure food, water, accomodation and healthcare
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Re: Cache of guns stolen from LAPD

Post by Robert_S » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:46 pm

mistermack wrote:
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote: You want my guns? Come try and take them.
You defeat your own argument there. You've clearly got a bit of the gunfighter delusion going on in your head.
Umm... :hehe:

I won't say why, but it is horribly funny what what would happen if they came to Zilla's house to take his guns away.
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Post by Seth » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:48 pm

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So, say what you want, think what you want, you're a meaningless cipher in the equation of liberty. You're nothing to those who value individual liberty. You're not a real threat to us because we have the might and the right to take and hold our freedom in spite of your pathetic and impotent protestations.
Yeah because live revolves around 'liberty' and 'freedom', its a nice luxury but meaningless until you have secure food, water, accomodation and healthcare
Without liberty and freedom, none of those things mean anything. I'd rather be dead than live a life of slavery and servitude, and a free man can usually find food, water, shelter and healthcare when he needs it, whereas slaves and sheeple have no choice but to take whatever their masters give them...or don't give them. Just ask the residents of the gulags in the USSR how that worked out for them. Not so well.

A free, armed citizenry can always take what it needs from despots and tyrants, and can free their slaves as well.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:50 pm

Or make more slaves.
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Post by Seth » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:06 pm

Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Or make more slaves.
And that's why free people acknowledge and protect the right of others to be armed as well. They know that each person is ultimately responsible for their own liberty and the liberty of others as well.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:09 pm

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Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Or make more slaves.
And that's why free people acknowledge and protect the right of others to be armed as well. They know that each person is ultimately responsible for their own liberty and the liberty of others as well.
True, but most people don't have the balls to use them. There's where the slaves would come from.
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:10 pm

Without liberty and freedom, none of those things mean anything. I'd rather be dead than live a life of slavery and servitude, and a free man can usually find food, water, shelter and healthcare when he needs it, whereas slaves and sheeple have no choice but to take whatever their masters give them...or don't give them. Just ask the residents of the gulags in the USSR how that worked out for them. Not so well.
Strangely enough most slaves don't commit suicide, most people in oppressive regimes do their best to survive. I'll stick to staying alive then I will worry about the freedom bit
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Post by Seth » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:27 pm

Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
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Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:Or make more slaves.
And that's why free people acknowledge and protect the right of others to be armed as well. They know that each person is ultimately responsible for their own liberty and the liberty of others as well.
True, but most people don't have the balls to use them. There's where the slaves would come from.
Nobody said that freedom is free. But you're right, many people are more comfortable in slavery than they are with the concept of freedom, which requires hard work and involves risk.
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