"Ardnamurchan Viking boat burial discovery 'a first' " BBC

[Ian]

Interesting, I'd have bet such a find would only have happened in the Orkneys or Hebrides.

Or the Orknbrides.

Seven brides for seven Orks?

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

[charlou]

Anything interesting to add to the topic, guys?

[Svartalf]

Nope, the Angles and Saxons did, and the Norse are a different branch of Germanic with easily recognized specificities.

[charlou]

The evolution of culture is very interesting to me. Language is a big part of that.

The vikings were absorbed with little contribution, then?

[Hermit]

Norsemen settled in Scotland and Ireland became assimilated into the Celtic population in pretty short order, even becoming "more Irish than the Irish"... I assume the assimilation would have been even easier among Germanic speaking folk.

Assimilation was pretty much a two-way process. There are only a few hundred Norse words (incomplete list here) that finished up in the modern English vocabulary, but considering that most of them are frequently used today still, Norse influence on the mongrel language seems quite significant to me, especially considering the short duration and limited geographic penetration of Norse occupation.

P.S: Would the contributors of bacon-and-cheese type posts please refrain from making them in this section of the forum? It is supposed to be part of » Serious Stuff » Language, Culture & Anthropology. Thank you.

[Svartalf]

Depends if maritime terms concerning ships and ship parts, and various fish, as well as a number of place names are regarded as a significant contribution, but they left more trauma in the general consciousness than definable traces in the language and modern landscape. There are more traces of Norse in Scottish Gaelic than in English, and of course, their influence on the settling patterns of population in Ireland are still easy to notice, whereas they are more diffuse in Britain, where they have few foundations.

@ Seraph... some of those attributions are probably abusive, the word actually coming from the Continental Germanic stock the Angles and Saxons brought with them rather than straight from the Norse. Of course, since the words would be related, it's easy to attribute the old word to the newer arrivals.

[Hermit]

Depends if maritime terms concerning ships and ship parts, and various fish, as well as a number of place names are regarded as a significant contribution

Click on the link, Svartalf. I'll be interested to see if you'll stand by your deprecatory remark after you have perused that list.

[Magicziggy]

Depends if maritime terms concerning ships and ship parts, and various fish, as well as a number of place names are regarded as a significant contribution

Click on the link, Svartalf. I'll be interested to see if you'll stand by your deprecatory remark after you have perused that list.

It is a surprisingly diverse list.

[Magicziggy]

I learned a new word.

Jökulhlaup- A jökulhlaup (or glacier burst) is a glacial outburst flood. It is an Icelandic term that has been adopted by the English language.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I thought they introduced the germanic aspect to the language?

That's the Germ. theory, at least.

[Coito ergo sum]

Interesting, I'd have bet such a find would only have happened in the Orkneys or Hebrides.

No they infested most of Scotland and northern England made a right nuisance of themselves ,once you bought a jar of pickled Herring off them you could never be rid of them they'd be back Pestering you until you gave in and bought a Sauna.....

But the isles is where they had the most and longest presence, since they tended to assimilate into the main pop when settling on the mainland.

Vikings founded York (Yorvik), and ruled the Danelaw for at least a century, as I recall. They founded Dublin, too.

Vikings were all over the British Isles, as invaders, traders and settlers, depending on the circumstances.

[Svartalf]

They did not... it was on the site of the roman city of Eboracum

[Svartalf]

and I did admit that the traces of Viking presence were more visible in Ireland didn't I? Not Just Dublin, Limerick, Cork, Wexford, Waterford, and also Carlingford, Strangford, Annagassan, Arklow, Youghal and maybe some more too.