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Re: CCTV

Post by Trolldor » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:05 pm

CCTV doesn't do much to reduce crime?

Well, even if it doesn't, it certainly provides video evidence of it. CCTV in public venues isn't an invasion of privacy. It's when it crosses in to private venues that you have a problem.
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Re: CCTV

Post by jaydot » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:36 am

dunno why people think that cctv is a new phenomenon. it's been deployed in big stores since forever and in recent years all the small shops have them too. bunging them on the street is simply an extension of the surveillance we've all been subject too for many years. the irony is that there are not enough scrutineers to view all the images.

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Re: CCTV

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:51 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:CCTV doesn't do much to reduce crime?

Well, even if it doesn't, it certainly provides video evidence of it. CCTV in public venues isn't an invasion of privacy. It's when it crosses in to private venues that you have a problem.
We've created a situation where the only place you now have a right to privacy is inside the walls of your own home. Why is that? Just because it's theoretically possible for an another person to see me as I walk along an empty beach, enjoying a moment of private contemplation, the Government are allowed to film me. Is it right and fair that in order to get privacy you mush rent or buy it?
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Re: CCTV

Post by mistermack » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:45 pm

I'm all for cctv. I like the thought of people getting convicted when they commit a crime. Don't forget for every crime, there is a victim.
As far as privacy goes, you go out in public, it's hardly private. The clue is in the name.
And just out of interest, can anyone actually link to an example where an innocent person was harmed in any way by cctv? Because there are loads of examples of innocent people getting saved from further assault, and of others getting justice, through cctv.

I also like the fact that the Police are now under much more cctv scrutiny. While I have my suspicions as to whether it is always used properly to substantiate complaints, at least the potential is there, and it might make them think twice about what they do.
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Post by ScholasticSpastic » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:30 am

mistermack wrote:Don't forget for every crime, there is a victim.
There are a lot of stupid laws which make this statement untrue. I've yet to hear of a nation which does not include victimless crimes in its penile code. :banghead:
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Re: CCTV

Post by Trolldor » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:44 am

Pappa wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:CCTV doesn't do much to reduce crime?

Well, even if it doesn't, it certainly provides video evidence of it. CCTV in public venues isn't an invasion of privacy. It's when it crosses in to private venues that you have a problem.
We've created a situation where the only place you now have a right to privacy is inside the walls of your own home. Why is that? Just because it's theoretically possible for an another person to see me as I walk along an empty beach, enjoying a moment of private contemplation, the Government are allowed to film me. Is it right and fair that in order to get privacy you mush rent or buy it?
A private residence is also any privately owned business. That said, they're liable to be filming you anyway.

At work, someone robbed us (Yeah, someone robbed a doctor's surgery) while whoever was at the desk went to the toilet. First and only time in the several decades they've been open. So we've now got a camera there.
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