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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by Pappa » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:17 am

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Pappa wrote:Why not have opt-in no holds barred mafia games (decided upon when they are started). The op would make it clear insults would be considered part of the game, in the same way we do with the "Insult TPAM" threads. I expect the staff would still step in if they felt a member was misusing the thread to actually harass another forum member.

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Sounds good to me. I think there should be a disclaimer in the OP so that people passing by wouldn't get the impression that the whole forum was like that, tho.
Or even in the thread title so there's no chance of confusion.
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by charlou » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:55 am

Pappa wrote:Why not have opt-in no holds barred mafia games (decided upon when they are started). The op would make it clear insults would be considered part of the game, in the same way we do with the "Insult TPAM" threads. I expect the staff would still step in if they felt a member was misusing the thread to actually harass another forum member.

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We scrape together just enough players for small games and many of those players do not want no-holds-barred games. If we lose those players, we lose the games.
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by Pappa » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:57 am

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Pappa wrote:Why not have opt-in no holds barred mafia games (decided upon when they are started). The op would make it clear insults would be considered part of the game, in the same way we do with the "Insult TPAM" threads. I expect the staff would still step in if they felt a member was misusing the thread to actually harass another forum member.

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We scrape together just enough players for small games and many of those players do not want no-holds-barred games. If we lose those players, we lose the games.
Fair enough.
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by Feck » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:04 am

I'd rather not turn the games into a "who has the thickest skin and the nastiest tongue "competition
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by veteran of forum wars » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:12 am

people only do that when it works hth.

it's up to you to make it ineffective.

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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by JimC » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:25 am

I cordially detest such threads, and will ignore them entirely.

But not the people who participate in them.

They are just weird, not evil...

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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by oblivion » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:25 am

Feck wrote:I'd rather not turn the games into a "who has the thickest skin and the nastiest tongue "competition
I don't think that's where the game is headed. The players here don't want it to be about thick skins.

The main thing is just the form in which moderation takes place in a game thread. It is less distracting and disruptive to the game if the moderation and any resulting discussion happens elsewhere, such as PM, with maybe a general reminder in the peanut gallery. But, that's not something mods can be automatically expected to know.

This was a sort of a collision of several factors - new players who didn't know the usual tone of a Ratz mafia game, some volatility, and regular in-thread moderation in a game thread, which took a few people by surprise. If anything, this was my bad for not making it clear when I was advertising this game that Ratz games have historically been mild in tone, and that's how the players here like it.

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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by charlou » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:35 am

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Feck wrote:I'd rather not turn the games into a "who has the thickest skin and the nastiest tongue "competition
I don't think that's where the game is headed. The players here don't want it to be about thick skins.

The main thing is just the form in which moderation takes place in a game thread. It is less distracting and disruptive to the game if the moderation and any resulting discussion happens elsewhere, such as PM, with maybe a general reminder in the peanut gallery. But, that's not something mods can be automatically expected to know.

This was a sort of a collision of several factors - new players who didn't know the usual tone of a Ratz mafia game, some volatility, and regular in-thread moderation in a game thread, which took a few people by surprise.
Yep, that's a fair assessment.

oblivion wrote: If anything, this was my bad for not making it clear when I was advertising this game that Ratz games have historically been mild in tone, and that's how the players here like it.
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by Feck » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:35 am

Well with 2 Admin types as players I'm sure something can be worked out . :tup:
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by Uselesstwit » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:20 pm

Charlou wrote:
Pappa wrote:Why not have opt-in no holds barred mafia games (decided upon when they are started). The op would make it clear insults would be considered part of the game, in the same way we do with the "Insult TPAM" threads. I expect the staff would still step in if they felt a member was misusing the thread to actually harass another forum member.

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We scrape together just enough players for small games and many of those players do not want no-holds-barred games. If we lose those players, we lose the games.
Not to mention that if people want a no holds barred mafia game, they could just wander over to TR. There's almost always a game going on there. I like the friendly atmosphere here, there's very little baggage carried on from game to game.
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by Zigmen » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:58 pm

The best ideas I have seen so far, and a few of my own.

1) Rename the forum "Fiendly Mafia"
2) Post a link this site's rules in every game's OP.
3) Temporarily remind players of the no harassment policy until this settles down. Do this in the Signup and game OP as well as the role PMS.
4) Players in violation get banned for the next game or longer.
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by higgs2 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:01 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:
Charlou wrote:
Pappa wrote:Why not have opt-in no holds barred mafia games (decided upon when they are started). The op would make it clear insults would be considered part of the game, in the same way we do with the "Insult TPAM" threads. I expect the staff would still step in if they felt a member was misusing the thread to actually harass another forum member.

Thoughts?
We scrape together just enough players for small games and many of those players do not want no-holds-barred games. If we lose those players, we lose the games.
Not to mention that if people want a no holds barred mafia game, they could just wander over to TR. There's almost always a game going on there. I like the friendly atmosphere here, there's very little baggage carried on from game to game.
It's no holds barred? No wonder people make me cry so much over there. :)
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by Kristie » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:10 pm

Zigmen wrote:The best ideas I have seen so far, and a few of my own.

1) Rename the forum "Fiendly Mafia"
2) Post a link this site's rules in every game's OP.
3) Temporarily remind players of the no harassment policy until this settles down. Do this in the Signup and game OP as well as the role PMS.
4) Players in violation get banned for the next game or longer.
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by charlou » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:50 pm

Zigmen wrote: "Fiendly Mafia"
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Re: Staff moderation of Mafia games

Post by green_tentacle » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:03 am

I'm just gonna say this. If you're gonna ban me, ban me for something worthy of a ban.



























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