"English" is a race?

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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 11:41 am

rainbow wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:The whole concept of race is arbitrary. To draw lines at caucasian or oriental or Asian or African is just as arbitrary as Nordic, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Alpine, Mediterrenean and African -- and all the racial categories make no more, or less, sense than the common notions of racial distinctions today.

Race "a group of persons related by common descent or heredity." -- LOL That is pretty much any group of persons...lol
Since all humans are related by common descent, that makes for one race. The human race.
We're not even divided by melanin content in the skin as it's impossible to establish a boundary line for a "race" based on that.
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Pappa » Wed May 01, 2013 2:04 pm

rainbow wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:The whole concept of race is arbitrary. To draw lines at caucasian or oriental or Asian or African is just as arbitrary as Nordic, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Alpine, Mediterrenean and African -- and all the racial categories make no more, or less, sense than the common notions of racial distinctions today.

Race "a group of persons related by common descent or heredity." -- LOL That is pretty much any group of persons...lol
Since all humans are related by common descent, that makes for one race. The human race.
That logic would also make the entire animal kingdom one "race" too.

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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 01, 2013 2:09 pm

Pappa wrote:
rainbow wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:The whole concept of race is arbitrary. To draw lines at caucasian or oriental or Asian or African is just as arbitrary as Nordic, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Alpine, Mediterrenean and African -- and all the racial categories make no more, or less, sense than the common notions of racial distinctions today.

Race "a group of persons related by common descent or heredity." -- LOL That is pretty much any group of persons...lol
Since all humans are related by common descent, that makes for one race. The human race.
That logic would also make the entire animal kingdom one "race" too.
Only if other animals are included in the definition of the word "person." :prof:

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Re: "English" is a race?

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Pappa wrote:
rainbow wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:The whole concept of race is arbitrary. To draw lines at caucasian or oriental or Asian or African is just as arbitrary as Nordic, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Alpine, Mediterrenean and African -- and all the racial categories make no more, or less, sense than the common notions of racial distinctions today.

Race "a group of persons related by common descent or heredity." -- LOL That is pretty much any group of persons...lol
Since all humans are related by common descent, that makes for one race. The human race.
That logic would also make the entire animal kingdom one "race" too.
Can we reproduce with animals? Other than Feck, of course.
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 01, 2013 2:35 pm

Tyrannical wrote:I've heard of English, Irish, Welsh, and Scottish spoken of as separate races.
But they're all white. :think:
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 01, 2013 2:44 pm

What about the Black Irish? The Black Kings of Scotland? The Dark Welsh?

And, the English are a mongrel race of Scandinavian/Nordic, Angle, Saxon, Celtic, French, Frankish, and Roman/Italian.

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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 2:45 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:What about the Black Irish? The Black Kings of Scotland? The Dark Welsh?

And, the English are a mongrel people of Scandinavian/Nordic, Angle, Saxon, Celtic, French, Frankish, and Roman/Italian.
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Post by Mysturji » Wed May 01, 2013 2:48 pm

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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 2:50 pm

Mysturji wrote:"Species" works for me.
Yeah, good boobage in that movie. :naughty:
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Tyrannical » Wed May 01, 2013 3:21 pm

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Pappa wrote:
rainbow wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:The whole concept of race is arbitrary. To draw lines at caucasian or oriental or Asian or African is just as arbitrary as Nordic, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Alpine, Mediterrenean and African -- and all the racial categories make no more, or less, sense than the common notions of racial distinctions today.

Race "a group of persons related by common descent or heredity." -- LOL That is pretty much any group of persons...lol
Since all humans are related by common descent, that makes for one race. The human race.
That logic would also make the entire animal kingdom one "race" too.
Can we reproduce with animals? Other than Feck, of course.
Many animals of different sub-species (and sometimes even different species) can mate with a related sub-species and produce viable non-sterile offspring. Environmentalists worry about sub-species mixture because a sub-species is considered extinct when no unadmixed specimens are alive. Yes, cross breeding can result in extinctions.
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 3:29 pm

Shit genetics are shit.
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Svartalf » Wed May 01, 2013 3:33 pm

and you transmitted yours... :nono:
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 3:46 pm

Svartalf wrote:and you transmitted yours... :nono:
Maybe, but I've never had serious notification of such. A few ladies tried it just to see what I would do. They were ... disappointed.
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by JimC » Wed May 01, 2013 9:25 pm

rainbow wrote: Since all humans are related by common descent, that makes for one race. The human race.
I'm still running, but stopping quite a lot to catch my breath...
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Re: "English" is a race?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 01, 2013 10:33 pm

JimC wrote:
rainbow wrote: Since all humans are related by common descent, that makes for one race. The human race.
I'm still running, but stopping quite a lot to catch my breath...
...I might even croak.
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