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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:39 am

pErvin wrote:
Animavore wrote:Exactly as I predicted. Trump gets destroyed at the debate stage. But no, most of you wouldn't listen. Some of you still worried, or hoped, he had a chance. He clearly doesn't care much about being President. He's no preparation or plan. Let's face it, he did it on a whim, maybe even on a bet.

You've had your fun, now, move along.
As I said, he was destroyed by a sane assessment. But will the 50% of Merkan's who are certifiable see it that way?
Well this is the whole problem. :?
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Forty Two » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:10 pm

UPI has Donald Trump ahead in the electoral college - http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/09/ ... 474908310/
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Tero » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:13 pm

Trump again slams former Miss Universe over weight

real presidential material, he is :funny:

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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Forty Two » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:26 pm

Time, CBS New York, Slate, Fox 5, WCPO Cinicinnati, ABC News Nashville, polls had Trump winning the debate - CNN showed Clinton winning - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... slide.html

LESTER HOLT: THE THIRD DEBATER...
Asked Trump 6 follow-up questions, did not ask ANY of Clinton...
Interrupted Trump 41 times, Clinton 7.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/27/holt- ... in-debate/

the "fact checking" became opinion journalism - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -opinion-/ (eight examples where the media claimed to "fact check" when in fact they just came up with a different view on debatable points or ignored the point of a statement).

Add to that the total and complete HORSESHIT from the moderator last night about "stop and frisk" - and the media has eaten it up whole cloth, claiming Trump was wrong about the constitutionality of stop and frisk. He wasn't what he said about it was absolutely correct, and the media has it wrong.

A district judge (trial court) did indeed find that stop and frisk as NYC was doing it was unconstitutional and had to be modified. HOWEVER, that decision was "stayed" by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, which means that it was held in abeyance, and was not an effective opinion. The trial judge was removed from the case by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals and the Second Circuit Court of Appeals found that the trial judge committed ethical violations in her conduct of the case and was biased against the police/city (exactly what Trump said). The appeal was never completed, however, because the new mayor, Bill DeBlasio, just settled with the Plaintiffs and discontinued the stop and frisk practice. The stay of the district court's order was never lifted and the case was never decided. New York City's stop and frisk policy was NEVER found unconstitutional by a binding court decision -- even if the disctrict judge's decision was not "stayed", it would ONLY be binding in her court. It wouldn't even be binding on other judges in her district. It's just one district judge's ruling, and other district judges might rule the exact opposite in the same circumstances. But, that doesn't stop the media from declaring Trump to be wrong.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Forty Two » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:37 pm

JimC wrote:
pErvin wrote:Clinton clearly won if we are talking about a sane assessment. But who knows what it means in Merka.
Even Forty Two predicted that Clinton would win a debate...
She was more polished, and made her arguments clearer - she seemed better prepared, was more articulate, etc.

I believe Trump looked unprepared, scattered and was not articulate. He missed golden opportunities for zingers and to skewer Hillary Clinton on various issues. Facial expressions and huffs and puffs were amateurish.

I give Hillary maybe a B- on her performance - not stellar, but solid, workable, passable - good, knowledgeable - but, no Reagan or Kennedy. Trump I give a C, up from a C- just allowing for his inexperience. If he does the same shit in debate number 2, he'll drop at least to a C- or even a D+.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by laklak » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:49 pm

Doesn't sound like I missed much. Looks like my decision to watch The Phantom Menace and smoke a couple of bowls was the correct one.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:52 pm

The moderator had to interrupt Trump as he wouldn't shut up and stick to the time limit or follow directions.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by tattuchu » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:55 pm

pErvin wrote:Clinton clearly won if we are talking about a sane assessment. But who knows what it means in Merka.
Like I said before, I doubt it'll make any difference to those already supporting Trump. It's trying like trying to sway a theist's mind via logic and reason; they're just not interested in such things. Again, never underestimate the stupidity of the average American.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by tattuchu » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:57 pm

pErvin wrote:The moderator had to interrupt Trump as he wouldn't shut up and stick to the time limit or follow directions.
Let's not bring obvious truths into the conversation :bored:
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:02 pm

tattuchu wrote:
pErvin wrote:Clinton clearly won if we are talking about a sane assessment. But who knows what it means in Merka.
Like I said before, I doubt it'll make any difference to those already supporting Trump. It's trying like trying to sway a theist's mind via logic and reason; they're just not interested in such things. Again, never underestimate the stupidity of the average American.
I guess the battle is for the undecided voters and apathetic potential voters.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Tero » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:04 pm

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/SM Clinton 51, Trump 44 Clinton +7

The LA times calls the same people who have all voted the same party since Reagan, so that poll, Trump +4, can be ignored.

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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by Forty Two » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:40 pm

fivethirtyeight.com has the gap considerably narrowed http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... rpromo#now

It's nearly a dead heat with Clinton at 53% chance of winning, and Trump at 47% chance, if election held today.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:57 pm

Forty Two wrote:Time, CBS New York, Slate, Fox 5, WCPO Cinicinnati, ABC News Nashville, polls had Trump winning the debate
That's simply inexplicable. Merka is clearly another universe.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by laklak » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:06 pm

Our own universe. A great universe. Really great. The best. Trust me.
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Re: Election 2016 Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:18 pm

:lol:

Actually, I did hear one plausible possible explanation straight after the debate. That was, that a lot of people wouldn't have sat through the whole 90 minutes. The thinking was that a lot of people would have tuned in for only 15 minutes or the like, and the Donald was much stronger early on and Clinton was a bit slow to start. It wasn't until the second half of the debate that the wheels really started falling off for Trump.
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