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Post by stripes4 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:30 pm

Ani, I don't know you so well, so am not sure if you have children. I suspect you don't. If you don't, make a leap of the imagination. If you had a 10 year old daughter, would you be comfortable with her dressing thus, and 'making up' and being photographed as above, and the pictures used in the media for advertising and the like? Honest reaction, here, my dear.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:32 pm

Yes. I would happily allow my daughter pose for such pics if that's what she wanted.
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Post by stripes4 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:33 pm

Animavore wrote:Yes. I would happily allow my daughter pose for such pics if that's what she wanted.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:37 pm

Let's take a look at the arguments against.

a) I find them 'disgusting' 'creepy'.

I don't so that's subjective.

b) They sexualise the child.

It's not like she's lying there legs spread.

c) paedophiles might wank over it.

:funny: This is the worst one. They might wank over pics in Avon catalogues. So what?

Not a rational reason among you :coffee:
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Post by Animavore » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:39 pm

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Animavore wrote:Yes. I would happily allow my daughter pose for such pics if that's what she wanted.
:spray: :zombie:
I find it equally humorous you doubt my sincerity. And a little offensive.
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Post by stripes4 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:42 pm

I don't particularly object to it on the grounds of paedophiles 'using' it. There will always be people who find children sexually exciting, so if they're not looking at these pictures they'll be doing something else, but what I find unpleasant is that female children are having their childhood taken away a tad early, it seems, and feeling pressure to become attractive in a sexual way, at an earlier age than when my generation were children. Pictures of children dressing in this way, in the media, magazines, ads, tv, etc, contribute to the pressure to look 'older' and more sophisticated. I think I was around 13 when I first got my hands on a lipstick and probably about 14 when I was really getting into dressing to attempt to look attractive to boys. I am still struggling with it now! Can't we just let girls be kids for a bit longer before we start telling them they need to look like a fuck bunny?
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Post by Pensioner » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:42 pm

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Animavore wrote:I'm pretty sure there are little girls who go around dressed like that.
Like I said: "These pics would be nothing more than a bit of fun if they were confined to some family photograph album. Once they are published on the internet and other mass media..."

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Post by stripes4 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:43 pm

Animavore wrote:
stripes4 wrote:
Animavore wrote:Yes. I would happily allow my daughter pose for such pics if that's what she wanted.
:spray: :zombie:
I find it equally humorous you doubt my sincerity. And a little offensive.
Oh may the lord save us from the irrationally and easily offended. YAWN.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:46 pm

stripes4 wrote:I don't particularly object to it on the grounds of paedophiles 'using' it. There will always be people who find children sexually exciting, so if they're not looking at these pictures they'll be doing something else, but what I find unpleasant is that female children are having their childhood taken away a tad early, it seems, and feeling pressure to become attractive in a sexual way, at an earlier age than when my generation were children. Pictures of children dressing in this way, in the media, magazines, ads, tv, etc, contribute to the pressure to look 'older' and more sophisticated. I think I was around 13 when I first got my hands on a lipstick and probably about 14 when I was really getting into dressing to attempt to look attractive to boys. I am still struggling with it now! Can't we just let girls be kids for a bit longer before we start telling them they need to look like a fuck bunny?
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stripes4 wrote:I don't particularly object to it on the grounds of paedophiles 'using' it. There will always be people who find children sexually exciting, so if they're not looking at these pictures they'll be doing something else, but what I find unpleasant is that female children are having their childhood taken away a tad early, it seems, and feeling pressure to become attractive in a sexual way, at an earlier age than when my generation were children. Pictures of children dressing in this way, in the media, magazines, ads, tv, etc, contribute to the pressure to look 'older' and more sophisticated. I think I was around 13 when I first got my hands on a lipstick and probably about 14 when I was really getting into dressing to attempt to look attractive to boys. I am still struggling with it now! Can't we just let girls be kids for a bit longer before we start telling them they need to look like a fuck bunny?
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Post by stripes4 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:47 pm

Yes they are Ani. You have little insight into child psychology. Unfortunately, the media does.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:48 pm

stripes4 wrote:Yes they are. You have little insight into child psychology. Unfortunately, the media does.
How many children read Vogue?
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:49 pm

Sexualising is a much subtler thing than porn, Ani. (in reference to the 'legs spread' remark) It's about representing a person as a viable object of sexual desire, and seeking to enhance those characteristics so that sexual desire will be fostered and encouraged.
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Post by stripes4 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:49 pm

Animavore wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Yes they are. You have little insight into child psychology. Unfortunately, the media does.
How many children read Vogue?
I don't know. I haven't counted. Do you know? Tell me if you do.
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Post by Animavore » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:53 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:Sexualising is a much subtler thing than porn, Ani. (in reference to the 'legs spread' remark) It's about representing a person as a viable object of sexual desire, and seeking to enhance those characteristics so that sexual desire will be fostered and encouraged.
Fostered and encouraged! By who? You have no grounds for this. Only a sick person would get that from these images and they get that anyway.
I just see a little girl playing grown-up for lulz.
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