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Post by Pensioner » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:25 pm

This guy posts in our local paper, his latest bullshit.

"COME ON, Mr Scaife (Letters, August 27). I didn’t introduce the Big Bang –you did. I simply paraphrased the theory.

What is described is an explosion, even though there is no “bang”. I bet even the junior school knows you can’t have a bang in a vacuum. If there was a “singularity” to start with, what was it and where did it come from? It seems you are employing smoke and mirrors.
It doesn’t matter what is observed by any satellite, the interpretation of the observations is made by a human being and is based on speculation – not knowledge, and comes with a large slice of predetermination. Most evolutionists know there are holes in their theories that make them unacceptable, but they go on believing because the only alternative is an intelligent creator-God which they choose to make even more unacceptable. That’s not science; that is religion.
Ken Barnes, North View Catterton.
Smoke and mirrors Friday 2nd September 2011"

This is what I said.

Which is the most credible, a talking snake or the theory of evolution Mr. Barnes?
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Post by Rum » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:16 pm

:tup: :lol:

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Post by mistermack » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:59 pm

One problem I've always had with the creation myth is who god was talking to.

When he said "let there be light", was he talking to himself?
Is god a loony? It makes sense !!
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Post by Rum » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:01 pm

He was probably misquoted. He actually said 'Give us a light', but who to - and who knew he smoked is equally puzzling!

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Post by pcCoder » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:06 pm

I've heard several television evangelists talk about the 'hundreds' and a couple of times even 'thousands' of prophecies in the bible, and yet never do they ever actual say any of what they are. I seem to have noticed the same when reading articles about evolution; they talk about the holes in the theory, but never actually mention what they are, like a parrot repeating what they have heard before. If they would say what they are then the conversation could continue with research on the claimed holes.

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Post by mistermack » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:34 pm

I think of the "holes in evolution" argument like an inkjet printer photograph of the Eifel Tower.

If you zoom in close enough, you can see that it's nothing but a page of dots, with loads of missing areas.
But when you zoom out, it's obvious that it's the Eifel Tower, and only an idiot, or someone who refused to look, could say otherwise.
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Post by FBM » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:35 pm

Please don't get them started on the "hundreds and thousands" thing again, pcCoder. :roll:

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:36 pm

mistermack » wrote:I think of the "holes in evolution" argument like an inkjet printer photograph of the Eifel Tower.

If you zoom in close enough, you can see that it's nothing but a page of dots, with loads of missing areas.
But when you zoom out, it's obvious that it's the Eifel Tower, and only an idiot, or someone who refused to look, could say otherwise.
They don't recognize that we're talking about two things:

The Theory of Evolution, which is our best evaluation of who Evolution works, and is still being refined.

AND

Evolution, a process which has been shown to work in so many studies that to deny its existence is simply asinine.
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Post by mistermack » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:41 pm

Yeh, that complete arse, William Lane Craig, actually accepts micro evolution, but denies that it could go any farther.
It's like saying "sure, a bricklayer built that wall, but that doesn't mean that one could have built this house". I still think god made it.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:47 pm

mistermack » wrote:Yeh, that complete arse, William Lane Craig, actually accepts micro evolution, but denies that it could go any farther.
It's like saying "sure, a bricklayer built that wall, but that doesn't mean that one could have built this house". I still think god made it.
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Post by Rum » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:59 pm

I don't know why I bothered but I just did a google search for Bible prophesy related sites including for prophesies which have actually come true.

It is of course, all balderdash and none of them have except in the most broad and general way - the way your 'stars' do in the newspapers.

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mistermack » wrote:One problem I've always had with the creation myth is who god was talking to.

When he said "let there be light", was he talking to himself?
Is god a loony? It makes sense !!
It's more complex than that. If I remember correctly all the theological bollocks I've read , the the voice of God is not God and that this Voice of God's (I think its some archangel) words create reality. What I always wondered is why no-one ever caught thatthe Voice of God by bringing forth light is the Lightbringer, Lucifer. I mean it's right there in the first paragraph.

Seems like a massive plot hole to me.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:07 pm

Audley Strange » wrote:
mistermack » wrote:One problem I've always had with the creation myth is who god was talking to.

When he said "let there be light", was he talking to himself?
Is god a loony? It makes sense !!
It's more complex than that. If I remember correctly all the theological bollocks I've read , the the voice of God is not God and that this Voice of God's (I think its some archangel) words create reality. What I always wondered is why no-one ever caught thatthe Voice of God by bringing forth light is the Lightbringer, Lucifer. I mean it's right there in the first paragraph.

Seems like a massive plot hole to me.
Actually, he had a voice-activated computer doing the job. Made in China, of course.
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Post by Audley Strange » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:09 pm

I've not read the 2050 Manadrin revised version yet.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:15 pm

Audley Strange » wrote:I've not read the 2050 Manadrin revised version yet.
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