Is there "no evidence" or are you perhaps simply ignorant of the evidence?Svartalf wrote:but there's no evidence of it existing eitherrEvolutionist wrote:You can't prove that a supernatural god doesn't exist. That's what BG is properly referring to.
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Um no, actually your rebuttal is begging the question. I don't claim god is anything as I don't contend that god exists. But God in almost all religions is defined as a supernatural being. Most certainly so in Christianity, Islam and Judaism. BG is clearly referring to those. There's no begging the question. He's referring to a pre-defined god.Seth wrote:Begging the question fallacy. Your argument fails on the premise that "god" is "supernatural," a claim for which you have absolutely zero evidence in support of but which you assume is true as a premise of your argument. That's pure tautology.rEvolutionist wrote:You can't prove that a supernatural god doesn't exist. That's what BG is properly referring to.
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An interesting question would be to analyse the possible differences between a supernatural god and a non-supernatural god. Presumably the latter would be involved in a deistic world view, and the former in a theistic world view...
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You can't prove Atheists exist.rEvolutionist wrote:You can't prove that a supernatural god doesn't exist. That's what BG is properly referring to.
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Of course you can. You just need to find one. According to Seth, there's millions of them in the world.
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Rubbish.
There are people who *claim* to be "Atheists"
They are either deluded or lying.
There are people who *claim* to be "Atheists"
They are either deluded or lying.
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Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
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Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
If not, why not?
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you been in a foxhole too many? and what's the difference between Atheist and atheist already?rainbow wrote:Rubbish.
There are people who *claim* to be "Atheists"
They are either deluded or lying.
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Does the testimony of the deluded and the insane carry weight in court?rainbow wrote:Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
If not, why not?
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Atheists don't exist whereas atheists listen to Black Sabbath and eat babiesSvartalf wrote:you been in a foxhole too many? and what's the difference between Atheist and atheist already?rainbow wrote:Rubbish.
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Can do. Is that why the courts have Bibles?Svartalf wrote:Does the testimony of the deluded and the insane carry weight in court?rainbow wrote:Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
If not, why not?
To keep out nutter "Atheists"?
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What does this have to do the logical inability to prove a supernatural god doesn't exist, or that you logically can prove that something exists?rainbow wrote:Would you accept as evidence for God the testimony of people that have "felt the power of the Holy Spirit"?rEvolutionist wrote:Lol, what the fuck are you on about?
If not, why not?
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You always resort to impugning my cognitive abilities when you don't like what I have to say. Have you noticed that?Seth wrote:You've debunked nothing. The Atheist's Fallacy exists because it is simply irrational to draw a conclusion about the existence or non-existence of God based on what theists have to say about it. The logic should be obvious to one of your evident intelligence: If the claims of theists are misguided, inaccurate or just flatly wrong, then drawing a conclusion as to the non-existence (or indeed the existence) of God based upon those claims is completely irrational. I really don't understand why this is so hard for you to understand.Brian Peacock wrote:Already debunked.Seth wrote:... which is the Atheist's Fallacy in a nutshell...
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