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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Joe » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:18 pm

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Just saw Tulsi Gabbard for the first time. She's a babe! :drool: Tulsi for Prez!!
Really? After all this time? Here's one of my favorites. Just in case you need to recognize her at the beach. :biggrin:

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:50 am

Joe wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:18 pm
pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:59 am
Just saw Tulsi Gabbard for the first time. She's a babe! :drool: Tulsi for Prez!!
Really? After all this time? Here's one of my favorites. Just in case you need to recognize her at the beach. :biggrin:

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Breitbart loves her... wars with hillary clinton..... Only reason she's not a republican is she is from Hawaii.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Joe » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:53 am

Tyrannical wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:50 am
Joe wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:18 pm
pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:59 am
Just saw Tulsi Gabbard for the first time. She's a babe! :drool: Tulsi for Prez!!
Really? After all this time? Here's one of my favorites. Just in case you need to recognize her at the beach. :biggrin:

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Breitbart loves her... wars with hillary clinton..... Only reason she's not a republican is she is from Hawaii.
That right? Funny that I missed their endorsement. :bored:

Ya know,
  • Her F rating from the NRA.
  • Her support for an Assault Weapons Ban, and universal background checks.
  • Her saying, “In an ideal world, we would listen to people instead of political action committees and the gun lobby and the N.R.A.”
  • The 100% rating by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
  • Her 100% record in Congress for pro-LGBT legislation,
  • That she co-sponsored the Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act.
  • Her proposal to tax stock and bond trades to make community college tuition free for all Americans while making all four-year colleges tuition free for students with an annual family income of $125,000 or less.
  • Her support of restoring the Glass-Steagall Act, breaking up too-big-to-fail banks, strengthening protections against predatory lending practices, increasing capital requirements for the nation’s largest banks, and banning naked credit default swaps.
  • Her Sierra Club endorsements.
  • Protesting the Dakota Access Pipeline in person.
  • Sponsoring legislation to require GMO labeling.
  • Supporting eliminating corporate income tax breaks for "offshoring"
don't exactly scream Republican, now do they?

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:42 am

Hot. :drool:
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Post by Tero » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:02 pm

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Who the hell knows what Pete stands for, other than personal ambition. He's a guy that speaks well and looks good in a suit that rich people are throwing money at. He's young enough that his terrible centrist stances haven't had the time to age like milk, which makes him more appealing than Biden. As far as being a technocratic centrist liberal, I suppose he's better than HRC.
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Post by Tero » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:41 pm

Republican judge removes 200 000 Democrats
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:19 pm

Is anyone outside the government allowed to see the 200,000 people being booted? How does that work?
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:12 pm

Don't know. Biden has a chance but the WI number is unreliable:
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Post by Tero » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:07 am

Having talked to a local person ( I am his customer), I am more and more convinced that there absolutely nothing Democrats can do to approach Trump voters, white working class etc. The democrats can only work on putting forward a convincing candidate and have people show up. People that need the government, people who can work with what is offered.

The Trumpists do not even want health insurance. "Them democrats should just get a job to get insurance." There are no issues for the government to handle for them. No consumer protection, no protection from banks, internet providers, scams etc. No global warming for sure. In fact the word global is bad. That would be a job for the gov't for them: keep the globe outside us.
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Post by Tero » Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:55 am

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If Biden has more incidents, or health issues or Rudy succeeds spinning a conspiracy, it may well be Sanders then. "I survived a heart attack, I'm too tough to give up!"
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:18 am

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Go Bernie! I hope he passes Biden. We'd be done with Ukraine.
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Post by Tero » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:07 am

Now they are arguing about healthcare again.

It's going to cost 30 trillion!

Nobody argues the logical items, issues. Say x doctors treat 50 million Americans each year for 20 years and 30 trillion. It is going to cost us the same amt for us to pay for it whether it is Medicare for all or a bunch of insurance companies. Except the bill will be 30 trilliom plus 20% if we use the insurance companies.

So there is no benefit from the insurance companies.

The healthcare providers would be private in both cases.
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Post by rainbow » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:03 am

Tero wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:07 am
Now they are arguing about healthcare again.

It's going to cost 30 trillion!

Nobody argues the logical items, issues. Say x doctors treat 50 million Americans each year for 20 years and 30 trillion. It is going to cost us the same amt for us to pay for it whether it is Medicare for all or a bunch of insurance companies. Except the bill will be 30 trilliom plus 20% if we use the insurance companies.

So there is no benefit from the insurance companies.

The healthcare providers would be private in both cases.
What you miss out in your equation is that doctors that do the cosmetic surgery that holds Melania together may not be prepared to treat poor sick children.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:34 pm

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Can all these people get themselves back onto being able to vote? It looks to me like what you'd expect in Russia and other autocratic states.

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The problem is that people are not aware they were erased. They show up to vote and cast a provisional vote. They then have 36 hours to renew an ID and show up with the current ID and second piece of paper to prove your residence. During a work week, the 36 hours is hard for poor people.

You can of course do all that in good time, but not every county informs voters. I get a card for every election telling where to vote.
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Post by rainbow » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:17 pm

Tero wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:34 pm
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X wrote:
Can all these people get themselves back onto being able to vote? It looks to me like what you'd expect in Russia and other autocratic states.

Me:
The problem is that people are not aware they were erased. They show up to vote and cast a provisional vote. They then have 36 hours to renew an ID and show up with the current ID and second piece of paper to prove your residence. During a work week, the 36 hours is hard for poor people.

You can of course do all that in good time, but not every county informs voters. I get a card for every election telling where to vote.
Don't you have a website where you can check your registration and polling station?
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