High school student expelled for dropping F-bomb in tweet

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High school student expelled for dropping F-bomb in tweet

Post by klr » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:42 pm

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/27 ... led_fbomb/
High school student expelled for dropping F-bomb in tweet
Principal sees red after witty tweet


by Iain Thomson in San Francisco • Get more from this author
Posted in Public Sector, 27th March 2012 19:49 GMT

An Indiana student has been expelled from school after sending a profane – if rather witty – tweet from his personal account.

"Fuck is one of those Fucking words you can Fucking put anywhere in a Fucking sentence and it still Fucking makes sense," it read.

Austin Carroll, formerly of Garrett High School, claims he sent the offending tweet out of school hours using his home computer, but an automatic monitoring system for pupil's tweets set up by the school recorded it as coming from one of the computers on campus. Carroll was summarily expelled from the school, and local police were called after fellow students protested the incident.

"If my account is on my own personal account, I don't think the school or anybody should be looking at it. Because it's my own personal stuff and it's none of their business," Carroll told Indiana News Center.

Carroll has since enrolled in a new school, which would at least allow him to graduate, but he will miss out on the traditional activities associated with graduation, such as the prom, as part of his punishment.

"I totally didn't agree with what Austin said but I didn't agree with an expulsion either. I mean if they suspended him for three days or something, I would be fine with that but to kick him out of school, his senior year, three months to go, wrong," said Pam Smith, Austin's mother,

While Carroll's tweet was certainly juvenile, it was also reasonably witty, and the f-word can hardly be unknown to most people, and is common in the arts. The best British poet of the last 50 years, Philip Larkin, penned the immortal line "They fuck you up, your mum and dad" in his best-known poem "This be the verse", and it was first used in a popular song by troubadour Al Stewart in the 1969 song "Love Chronicles."

The Old English equivalent to the f-word is swive or swyve, which Chaucer used repeatedly in the "Millers Tale," the bawdiest of his Canterbury Tales, which is still taught in English classes today. It received a new lease of life with Antony Burgess' memorable novel "Napoleon Symphony," where a character was described as swiving like a rattlesnake.
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Post by Ronja » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:18 pm

klr wrote:What the fuck is wrong with people America?
Well, that's what some Americans are asking, anyway... :ddpan:
Feeding The Homeless BANNED In Major Cities All Over America

What would you do if you came across someone on the street that had not had anything to eat for several days? Would you give that person some food? Well, the next time you get that impulse you might want to check if it is still legal to feed the homeless where you live. ...

This is just another example that shows that our country is being taken over by control freaks. There seems to be this idea out there that it is the job of the government to take care of everyone and that nobody else should even try.

But do we really want to have a nation where you have to get the permission of the government before you do good to your fellow man?

...

In America today, it seems like almost everything is illegal. One church down in Louisiana was recently ordered to stop giving out waterbecause it did not have a government permit.

Well, I don’t know about you, but I sure am going to give a cup of cold water to someone if they need it whether I have a permit or not.

It is as if common sense has totally gone out the window in this nation. Over in New Hampshire, a woman is being sued for planting flowers in her own front yard.

This is the kind of thing that makes me glad that I have moved to a much more rural location. People in the country tend to be much more relaxed.

Sadly, those that love to micro-manage others continue to get the upper hand in America. Back in January, 40,000 new laws went into effect all over America. The politicians continue to hit us with wave after wave of regulations and laws with no end in sight.

All of this is making America a very unpleasant place in which to live.
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Post by FBM » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:04 am

It's fucking even illegal to fucking feed the fucking homeless these fucking days. :fp:
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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:11 am

"Feeding The Homeless BANNED In Major Cities All Over America"

We are a large country with at least 75 major cities, and they name 5 cities? With specific (not all the same) problems?

Talk about a misleading headline.

Did it occur to anybody that a lot of this food is prepared by people who don't know jack shit about food sanitation and safety? It does not take much to poison a food source, and then you feed it to a group of homeless people who get violently ill from it. Most of them won't make to the hospital probably, and then they just die and get written as dead from exposure, whatever, nobody will know. Oh, you need that tooth pulled eh..I'm not a dentist, but let me help you out! I don't know you, and I'll probably never see you again, so what the hell.

It's not as simple as just meaning well and feeding somebody who is hungry.

The UK and Finland are both smaller than California...and therefore a little easier to manage, wouldn't you think? Where's the story about how we take of the homeless here in California?

In Santa Cruz, food banks and restaurants send their 'secondhand' food to a nonprofit type 'broker' and they are the ones who distribute it to the shelters etc, and they are the ones who carry the liability if something happens. Because yes, homeless people have sued before for food poisoning.

I think I'm pretty fair about not being US biased, but sometimes I think these types of stories sound more like sensationalist stuff to make us out as big bad America.
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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:31 am

andrewclunn wrote:Feeling the draw to libertarianism yet?
My response to that is the look you have in your eyes in your avatar. :hehe:
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Post by mistermack » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:38 am

Maiforpeace,
comparing supplying something to eat with working as a dentist is hardly like-for-like.
I've been feeding myself and others for over forty years, without poisoning myself or anybody else. And never had a single day's training.

And if you're springing to the defence of the US, pointing out that homeless people have sued people who gave them food isn't really helping. Around the world, constant litigation is one of the things that people find amusing about the States. ( although in most cases, it just happens first in America, then spreads to the rest of the world ).
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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:12 am

mistermack wrote:Maiforpeace,
comparing supplying something to eat with working as a dentist is hardly like-for-like.
I've been feeding myself and others for over forty years, without poisoning myself or anybody else. And never had a single day's training.

And if you're springing to the defence of the US, pointing out that homeless people have sued people who gave them food isn't really helping. Around the world, constant litigation is one of the things that people find amusing about the States. ( although in most cases, it just happens first in America, then spreads to the rest of the world ).
I didn't know you work as a cook in a restaurant or in foodservice.

No, I'm not springing to the defense of the US - I'm pointing out the sensationalism of that particular article's title.

But, if we want to generalize...

On the subject of dentists... I had an interesting discussion waiting at the train station in Manchester today with a local about British dental care, it wasn't what I would call a glowing account. ;)
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:17 am

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mistermack wrote:Maiforpeace,
comparing supplying something to eat with working as a dentist is hardly like-for-like.
I've been feeding myself and others for over forty years, without poisoning myself or anybody else. And never had a single day's training.

And if you're springing to the defence of the US, pointing out that homeless people have sued people who gave them food isn't really helping. Around the world, constant litigation is one of the things that people find amusing about the States. ( although in most cases, it just happens first in America, then spreads to the rest of the world ).
I didn't know you work as a cook in a restaurant or in foodservice.

No, I'm not springing to the defense of the US - I'm pointing out the sensationalism of that particular article's title.

But, if we want to generalize...

On the subject of dentists... I had an interesting discussion waiting at the train station in Manchester today with a local about British dental care, it wasn't what I would call a glowing account. ;)
My roommate out in San Pablo was a dentist in Egypt. Had already done over 100 extractions but was working at a Burger King studying to get his US certification stuff.

On a side note, he said it really sucked being a Christian in Egypt and argued passionately with the JWs about the finer points of Christ's divinity.
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:22 am

But yes, it is definitely an overreach for the school to decide to discipline a student for what they do in their own time. Especially over free speech, it is a betrayal of our founding principles and that school should be demolished and every administrator should be fired to set a proper example.

And when I say "fired", I mean "no goddamn pension go apply at the burger joint" fired.
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Post by mistermack » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:49 am

maiforpeace wrote: I didn't know you work as a cook in a restaurant or in foodservice.
I don't.
maiforpeace wrote: But, if we want to generalize...

On the subject of dentists... I had an interesting discussion waiting at the train station in Manchester today with a local about British dental care, it wasn't what I would call a glowing account.
I would disagree with that local. Firstly, if you want private dental care, it's no better or worse in the UK than anywhere else. What we have is NHS dental care AS WELL, which is certainly not as it should be, but it's always been good for me. You do hear tales of it being hard to get, but it's never happened to me. I've always used NHS dentists, and they have always been extremely good.
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That kid was lucky he didn't get shot by the school copper.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:05 am

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:08 am

Robert_S wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
mistermack wrote:Maiforpeace,
comparing supplying something to eat with working as a dentist is hardly like-for-like.
I've been feeding myself and others for over forty years, without poisoning myself or anybody else. And never had a single day's training.

And if you're springing to the defence of the US, pointing out that homeless people have sued people who gave them food isn't really helping. Around the world, constant litigation is one of the things that people find amusing about the States. ( although in most cases, it just happens first in America, then spreads to the rest of the world ).
I didn't know you work as a cook in a restaurant or in foodservice.

No, I'm not springing to the defense of the US - I'm pointing out the sensationalism of that particular article's title.

But, if we want to generalize...

On the subject of dentists... I had an interesting discussion waiting at the train station in Manchester today with a local about British dental care, it wasn't what I would call a glowing account. ;)
My roommate out in San Pablo was a dentist in Egypt. Had already done over 100 extractions but was working at a Burger King studying to get his US certification stuff.

On a side note, he said it really sucked being a Christian in Egypt and argued passionately with the JWs about the finer points of Christ's divinity.
He was a Copt?

Given the specifics of Coptic theology, and the fact that JWs deny Jesus' divinity (one of the few good points I find with them), it sure must have been interesting indeed, like hearing a tourette afflicted guy trying to debate a deaf one.
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