Argentina opens up second front in Falklands Kerfuffle

[Coito ergo sum]

Should Denmark give Greenland to Canada, or to Iceland?

[Audley Strange]

You think Margaret Thatcher arranged the Falkland Islands War?

Not singlehandely but yes. She was big buds with Pinochet, so it wouldn't surprise me if she had links to Galtieri (especially as Galtieri was like she was, in cahoots with Reagan) who was also suffering from lack of popularity back in Argentina and his society was unravelling around him too.

There was mutual benefit.

[Coito ergo sum]

You think Margaret Thatcher arranged the Falkland Islands War?

Not singlehandely but yes.

She coordinated it? Made it happen? What was her role? How do you know?

She was big buds with Pinochet,

Ah, the "big buds" thing -- so and so was "buddies" with such and such monstrous dictator. Operates as a good shortcut allowing conclusions to be reached without actual facts.

so it wouldn't surprise me if she had links to Galtieri (especially as Galtieri was like she was, in cahoots with Reagan) who was also suffering from lack of popularity back in Argentina and his society was unravelling around him too.

It wouldn't surprise you if she had "links?" What's a "link?" As far as it goes, I wouldn't be surprised if any world leaders were communicating and such. That's a far cry from saying she organized the Falkland Islands War on purpose.

There was mutual benefit.

The benefit to Argentina from being drawn into a losing war was what?

[Rum]

You think Margaret Thatcher arranged the Falkland Islands War?

Not singlehandely but yes. She was big buds with Pinochet, so it wouldn't surprise me if she had links to Galtieri (especially as Galtieri was like she was, in cahoots with Reagan) who was also suffering from lack of popularity back in Argentina and his society was unravelling around him too.

There was mutual benefit.

Simply not true. I was as anti-Thatcherite as they come. She was a dreadful community smashing zealot, but she was taken by surprise by the invasion, so I am not taking sides. Here's a link to a story about recently released papers (under the 30 year rule).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20800447

No doubt you will cry conspiracy!

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

Do you think that the Argies will respect the (inevitable) outcome of the referendum, or do you think they will continue to contest the islands?

[Coito ergo sum]

Do you think that the Argies will respect the (inevitable) outcome of the referendum, or do you think they will continue to contest the islands?

The haven't respected the previous votes of the islanders on the subject, so why would they respect this one?

[Audley Strange]

You think Margaret Thatcher arranged the Falkland Islands War?

Not singlehandely but yes. She was big buds with Pinochet, so it wouldn't surprise me if she had links to Galtieri (especially as Galtieri was like she was, in cahoots with Reagan) who was also suffering from lack of popularity back in Argentina and his society was unravelling around him too.

There was mutual benefit.

Simply not true. I was as anti-Thatcherite as they come. She was a dreadful community smashing zealot, but she was taken by surprise by the invasion, so I am not taking sides. Here's a link to a story about recently released papers (under the 30 year rule).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20800447

No doubt you will cry conspiracy!

No no, I recalled certain people like Michael Heseltine claiming she had been in discussions with Galtieri since '79 and others who said that the two had a friendly relationship.

I did read them. I have also read this... http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/112605 and the reports from Alexander Haig who was dumfounded by the Argentinians actions considering previous negotiations.

I take back what I said. It has been made obvious that it was only Galiteiri that was using it for political expediency since his advisors were convinced we'd let them go. Thatcher just took advantage of it.



I retract my previous post.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

Do you think that the Argies will respect the (inevitable) outcome of the referendum, or do you think they will continue to contest the islands?

The haven't respected the previous votes of the islanders on the subject, so why would they respect this one?

'Cos last time they got their asses kicked.


Edit- I say "last time" but have there been any referendum since the main conflict 30 years ago?

[Coito ergo sum]

No no, I recalled certain people like Michael Heseltine claiming she had been in discussions with Galtieri since '79 and others who said that the two had a friendly relationship.

So? And, so? I'm sure Thatcher had discussions with Brezhnev of the Soviet Union too, does that mean she was involved in the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan because they were "buds?"

[Jason]

I almost hope they're stupid enough to invade again.

They got some new ships.

[MrJonno]

The war industry demands it.

Britain has a war industry? I think the harrier jump jets will have to be carried in by hot air balloon this time....

What Harriers, the ones we had left (after spending lots of money refitting them) were sold to the US Marines for a year supply of Big Mac's

[Jason]

I just realized I don't know much about what hardware England operates these days. Are you blokes flying Eurofighters?

[MrJonno]

I just realized I don't know much about what hardware England operates these days. Are you blokes flying Eurofighters?

There are some on the Falkland Islands, whatever state the British military is the Argentinian one is in a far worse state. They are still using the same kit from 1982

[John_fi_Skye]

Puharas? They were great.

[Jason]

The Argies are stupid.. they should start floating 'refugees' over to the islands on wooden doors to subvert the voting population.