Trump and ethnic cleansing

[Cunt]

The number of hate crimes

I distrust 'hate crime stats' in large part because of those who work with them. I wonder if the incidence/prosecution of fakes would make useful data.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

How many of these fake hate crimes were actually reported by law enforcement to the FBI UCR program?

I don't know, but with all the political focus on each subset of data, it would be subject to a bit of bias.

My guess is that there is systemic racism against every race, to different degrees. I'm absolutely sure though, that acceptance of racism is easier in certain ways. If you want to test it, make a burner account, and say horrible things about every 'race' you can think of, and note which ones are accepted more publicly.

If I was going to be born a random minority, random gender, I would probably choose to be born in the US over most other countries (if Canada was not available). The US may have racism problems, but how are they doing when compared to other humans, instead of comparing them to some irrational ideal?

[JimC]

Perhaps far-right racist groups are becoming more active and visible, at the same time as a small but steady decrease in racist attitudes in most people on average...

[laklak]

That's what I see, for what that's worth. Racism, homophobia, sexism - all are decreasing in the general population. Now, that doesn't mean the racists and gay bashers and rapey sexists aren't getting louder, and that's to be expected as they see their influence erode. The KKK simply doesn't exist any longer in any real sense. If you see a Confederate flag these days (even down here) it's a real outlier, you used to see them every fucking day, multiple times. Those white supremacist groups like Aryan Nation and the like are pale fucking shadows of their former selves. Right wing militias are fucking tiny compared to 20 or 30 years ago.

Calling what happens here "ethnic cleansing" is frankly a slap in the face to those who have dealt with the real fucking thing. There aren't any mass graves, there are no government death squads, no concentration camps, nobody is being disappeared unless you piss off Hillary. We're not in the middle of a brutal civil war. It's like looking at a pimple and calling it malignant melanoma.

I honestly don't know what it's like in California, maybe it's as horribly in your face, racist, white supremacist as Seabass makes it out to be, but it sure as hell isn't like that here in the Heart of Dixie. Maybe you need to move, dude, Come down here where we all more or less get along.

[Sean Hayden]

It's not a small change. It is significant and across multiple issues.

[laklak]

Moving is actually a pretty good idea. For the cost of a single family home in California you'll buy 2 or 3 houses here AND a boat.

[Sean Hayden]

Yeah, we've had so many move here that Republicans have taken to pleading with them not to bring their politics with them!

[laklak]

We been doing that for yonks with the New Yorkers.

I mean, if what you got at home is a fucking shithole, don't come down here and try to make it just like the shithole you left. That way lies madness, you'll just have to move again, and the only places left are Alabama, Louisiana, or Mississippi. Now, them folk ain't gonna take to you, I garontee.

[Cunt]

We been doing that for yonks with the New Yorkers.

I mean, if what you got at home is a fucking shithole, don't come down here and try to make it just like the shithole you left. That way lies madness, you'll just have to move again, and the only places left are Alabama, Louisiana, or Mississippi. Now, them folk ain't gonna take to you, I garontee.

Up this way, the conditions kind of filter assholes for us.

It's near frontier, in some ways.

[Seabass]

Perhaps far-right racist groups are becoming more active and visible

You can say that again! They've taken over the White House!

[pErvinalia]

My guess is that there is systemic racism against every race, to different degrees.

Why would you guess that? It's unlikely there's systemic racism against whites in a white majority system.

[Tero]

Moving is actually a pretty good idea. For the cost of a single family home in California you'll buy 2 or 3 houses here AND a boat.

But then you need all those guns to protect all the houses and boats.

[Seabass]

That's what I see, for what that's worth. Racism, homophobia, sexism - all are decreasing in the general population. Now, that doesn't mean the racists and gay bashers and rapey sexists aren't getting louder, and that's to be expected as they see their influence erode. The KKK simply doesn't exist any longer in any real sense. If you see a Confederate flag these days (even down here) it's a real outlier, you used to see them every fucking day, multiple times. Those white supremacist groups like Aryan Nation and the like are pale fucking shadows of their former selves. Right wing militias are fucking tiny compared to 20 or 30 years ago.

Calling what happens here "ethnic cleansing" is frankly a slap in the face to those who have dealt with the real fucking thing. There aren't any mass graves, there are no government death squads, no concentration camps, nobody is being disappeared unless you piss off Hillary. We're not in the middle of a brutal civil war. It's like looking at a pimple and calling it malignant melanoma.

I honestly don't know what it's like in California, maybe it's as horribly in your face, racist, white supremacist as Seabass makes it out to be, but it sure as hell isn't like that here in the Heart of Dixie. Maybe you need to move, dude, Come down here where we all more or less get along.

Yes, things could be a lot worse if Trump had his way. That's why I called Trump an attempted ethnic cleanser. Fortunately, a lot of his policies have been stopped in the courts.

California's fine. It's the racists in the White House running our immigration policy that concern me...

[laklak]

Moving is actually a pretty good idea. For the cost of a single family home in California you'll buy 2 or 3 houses here AND a boat.

But then you need all those guns to protect all the houses and boats.

What's wrong with that? Guns Are Fun, Kids!

[Cunt]

My guess is that there is systemic racism against every race, to different degrees.

Why would you guess that? It's unlikely there's systemic racism against whites in a white majority system.

If you define 'white' as a race, and toss many different races in there, it's amazing what you can do.

For example, you can simply assume 'white' is a defined race, and make broad sweeping generalizations about them, in a way that would make a social pariah if you replace 'white' with a clearly defined racial group.

[pErvinalia]

That was an impressive non-sequitur, even for you!