The wording of the second amendment gives military use as the only purpose of the amendment.Seth wrote:What you hoplophobes fail to understand is that the PRIMARY (though not exclusive) purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to protect military arms and the people's right to keep and bear them in order to provide an effective (well regulated) militia.
Though I think it's a good idea, politically it would never, ever fly...Făkünamę wrote:I'd suggest an amnesty period of 6 months where US citz can turn in their assault weapons and high cap magazines and receive a gift voucher good for $100 at Bed, Bath, and Beyond. Following the amnesty period, mandatory minimum sentences should be put in place for anyone in possession of an assault weapon or high capacity magazine. Warrants should be issued for police to search the premises of persons suspected of possessing, trafficking, or manufacturing this contraband with the same restrictions placed on the granting of a warrant for other purposes (no anti-gun Gestapo). Minimum sentences should scale to the nature of the infraction: More assault weapons/HC mags -> longer minimum sentence. Or perhaps a minimum fine/jail sentence combination. Say 3 years for possessing one high cap magazine or a $30,000 fine.
I suspect the above is most likely a rhetorical question, but ...Făkünamę wrote:But groper, what if the US Army is overrun, the Navy sunk, the Airforce downed, and the National Guard obliterated by hordes of commy-marxists? The last best defense must be armed citizens.
Conclusion : So is the second amendment.Făkünamę wrote:Pretty much. A civilian militia is a bad joke.
And what if said citizens had made it clear that they were looking out for themselves and fuck everybody else?Făkünamę wrote:But groper, what if the US Army is overrun, the Navy sunk, the Airforce downed, and the National Guard obliterated by hordes of commy-marxists? The last best defense must be armed citizens.
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If prices go SKY fucking high, how thriving do you suppose that black market is going to be? And how willing are most would-be owners going to risk buying one on that market? Some would, but some future 20-something ne'er-do-well whacko who has his mind set on shooting up a movie theater might have to make do with something else. And if so, then perhaps the body count wouldn't be so high when he does.laklak wrote:Even Diane Feinstein's proposed ban doesn't outlaw existing weapons, and she's as virulent anti-gunner as there is. They know that won't fly. It does prohibit "sale or transfer", so all that will happen is a thriving black market in high capacity mags and weapons. Prices will go SKY fucking high. Doesn't matter what laws they pass, actually, if laws did any good at all I wouldn't be able to drive a few blocks and buy cocaine on the street corner or hire a prostitute, purchase an unregistered gun with no serial numbers or get a new TV and stereo for $100.
So what you're saying is that, after all the public outrage and demand for real preventative action to be taken, John Q. Public is going to be pacified by a few half-measures that won't accomplish anything at all?laklak wrote:Even Diane Feinstein's proposed ban doesn't outlaw existing weapons, and she's as virulent anti-gunner as there is. They know that won't fly. It does prohibit "sale or transfer", so all that will happen is a thriving black market in high capacity mags and weapons. Prices will go SKY fucking high. Doesn't matter what laws they pass, actually, if laws did any good at all I wouldn't be able to drive a few blocks and buy cocaine on the street corner or hire a prostitute, purchase an unregistered gun with no serial numbers or get a new TV and stereo for $100.
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