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Re: Iran Navy Harasses US Warships

Post by Svartalf » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:10 pm

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Crumple wrote:Just sinking a nimitz class aircraft carrier or two should do it - they are sitting targets with todays missiles.
Well, they have 2 to aim at, Vinson and Lincoln (pictured) but they aren't a vulnerable as you seem to think, fag packet mines or missiles, you don't sit 90 aircraft next door to your enemy's port unless you can defend them.
Current Iranian military posture indicates they may use unclear weapons against the Carrier Battle Groups.





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Maybe that's more for Ian... but do the experts think they actually have reliably functional warheads? (I assume they don't need to develop special vehicles to carry those to such a short range)
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:12 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I'm sure the Iranian govt has flicked through the latest Exocet catalogues...
What was it the Argentineans sunk back when?
Is that even remotely within the same size range as a freaking carrier?
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Re: Iran Navy Harasses US Warships

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Svartalf wrote:
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Crumple wrote:Just sinking a nimitz class aircraft carrier or two should do it - they are sitting targets with todays missiles.
Well, they have 2 to aim at, Vinson and Lincoln (pictured) but they aren't a vulnerable as you seem to think, fag packet mines or missiles, you don't sit 90 aircraft next door to your enemy's port unless you can defend them.
Current Iranian military posture indicates they may use unclear weapons against the Carrier Battle Groups.





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Maybe that's more for Ian... but do the experts think they actually have reliably functional warheads? (I assume they don't need to develop special vehicles to carry those to such a short range)
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:18 pm

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Clinton Huxley wrote:I'm sure the Iranian govt has flicked through the latest Exocet catalogues...
What was it the Argentineans sunk back when?
Is that even remotely within the same size range as a freaking carrier?
Don't know what the latest versions of the Exocet are like but I bet even one would make a mess of a Nimitz if it got through. Wouldn't sink it but could make it need a major refit...
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Post by amused » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:18 pm

I suspect those aircraft carriers have some hellacious anti-missile defense systems. Even for the unclear ones.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:19 pm

amused wrote:I suspect those aircraft carriers have some hellacious anti-missile defense systems. Even for the unclear ones.
If they shoot down 11 out of 12 incoming, still leaves a small problem.
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Post by klr » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:21 pm

They'll have at least one escort vessel dedicated to anti-missile duties, and likewise for anti-submarine protection.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:23 pm

Here's the smoking gun for war. Iran can say what ever it wants but messing with the supremacy of the dollar is unforgiveable as Iraq found out. :smoke:

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Post by amused » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:24 pm

I also suspect that the Iranians have been told in no uncertain terms that the launch sites and command and control centers for anything they launch will be turned to glass.

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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:25 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:I'm sure the Iranian govt has flicked through the latest Exocet catalogues...
What was it the Argentineans sunk back when?
Is that even remotely within the same size range as a freaking carrier?
Don't know what the latest versions of the Exocet are like but I bet even one would make a mess of a Nimitz if it got through. Wouldn't sink it but could make it need a major refit...
Technically, an exocet's design is to disable frigate size ships... using one on a carrier still would be using .303 for elephant shooting.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:29 pm

"Ship killer" is purely PR.
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Re: Iran Navy Harasses US Warships

Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:37 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:"Ship killer" is purely PR.
I'm glad I'm not on one in the gulf right now all the same. :smoke:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:43 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:I'm sure the Iranian govt has flicked through the latest Exocet catalogues...
What was it the Argentineans sunk back when?
Is that even remotely within the same size range as a freaking carrier?
Don't know what the latest versions of the Exocet are like but I bet even one would make a mess of a Nimitz if it got through. Wouldn't sink it but could make it need a major refit...
Technically, an exocet's design is to disable frigate size ships... using one on a carrier still would be using .303 for elephant shooting.
I still reckon it would do enough damage to make the carrier have to withdraw for repairs. Depends where it hit. If it hit the bridge....
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:44 pm

Crumple wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:"Ship killer" is purely PR.
I'm glad I'm not on one in the gulf right now all the same. :smoke:
I had friends on one that got hit.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:50 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:I'm sure the Iranian govt has flicked through the latest Exocet catalogues...
What was it the Argentineans sunk back when?
Is that even remotely within the same size range as a freaking carrier?
Don't know what the latest versions of the Exocet are like but I bet even one would make a mess of a Nimitz if it got through. Wouldn't sink it but could make it need a major refit...
Technically, an exocet's design is to disable frigate size ships... using one on a carrier still would be using .303 for elephant shooting.
I still reckon it would do enough damage to make the carrier have to withdraw for repairs. Depends where it hit. If it hit the bridge....
It wouldn't. Those things fly low, and Aircraft carriers are insanely high above the water... and the bridge is in the conning tower.
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