Restricting constitutional feeedoms.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Would you be OK with guns if they were marketed as promoting hand-eye coordination rather than self-defence?

Hiring guns to use at a sports club and fire at non human targets is fine by me (British laws on this are a little excessive but nothing in life is perfect)

Ayaan likes to do that.

[pErvinalia]

"Come on, Little Johnny! I'm going to teach you to box today and do some basic moves to help you if some school bully comes after you." --- Mr. Jonno calls the police and Child Protection Services, because dad wants to "encourage" Little Johnny to be able to handle a bully. "No, no, Little Johnny," says Mr. Jonno,"you're supposed just sit there and take it, and if the police don't come, the ambulance will be sure to scoop you up and take you to the hospital promptly."sad

I would say any parent that encourage their child to hit a bully was an appalling parent and almost certainly a bully themselves

LOL -- nonsense. What I was referring to was encouraging a child to defend themselves if a bully tries to hit them. That seems to be a distinction you are either not grasping, or ignoring.

yeah, no shit!

Nothing to do with authortarian mind control , its to do with restricting commercial adverstising which has some pretty strict controls in the UK and at least some in the US

Bullshit. Where's the "advertising" in a parent teaching their child self-defence skills?

[laklak]

I'd just give the kid pepper spray and a .38 snubnose in an ankle holster. Come at me, bro.

[Seth]

I installed a 72" plasma TV a few years ago.. Major pain the in the ass to move, let alone get it up on the wall.

If I was a thief in a home where I knew the residents were home at the time I'd choose small items of value. Maybe come back a few weeks later with a van and three buddies to steal the TV when the family is gone on vacation.

I installed a Zenith plasma 72" display at my studio for a DVD editing project. It was one of the first plasma displays that large on the market. Cost about $14,000. Lasted two years before the plasma display went wonky. Fuck. $7,000 a year. Fuck.

[Seth]

Basically most martial arts including boxing are not suitable for urban self defence, no harder to mug Mike Tyson than me, you go up to him and stick a knife at his throat ask for his wallet. In fact I would put my chances higher of not getting hurt as I would hand it over without an argument and he is more likely to be suffering from excessive testosterone than me

So I'm not sure you can prepare for self defence only falsely try to get other people to

I strongly encourage you to do that to Mike Tyson to test your theory. Or me. At least then you'll be out of our hair and we won't have to read your ridiculous and pathetic claptrap.

[FBM]

Basically most martial arts including boxing are not suitable for urban self defence, no harder to mug Mike Tyson than me, you go up to him and stick a knife at his throat ask for his wallet. In fact I would put my chances higher of not getting hurt as I would hand it over without an argument and he is more likely to be suffering from excessive testosterone than me

So I'm not sure you can prepare for self defence only falsely try to get other people to

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[Gawdzilla Sama]

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[Tero]

Seth edits videos? Gun videos?

[Coito ergo sum]

Would you be OK with guns if they were marketed as promoting hand-eye coordination rather than self-defence?

Hiring guns to use at a sports club and fire at non human targets is fine by me (British laws on this are a little excessive but nothing in life is perfect)

Why? They're training to be better shooters, and nothing can come of that.

[FBM]

[Coito ergo sum]

I would not what to see an advert like the one below, don't think much can be done to regulated web adverts, but anything in print like this should be banned

http://www.ukselfdefence.com/

Um, why?

People can't print what they like? Can't have arguably truthful points of view freely published?

Like I said -- yours is an authoritarian view, arch-conservative. Couldn't be further right than that, when it comes to free speech. Welcome to the Right Wing.

[Coito ergo sum]

Basically most martial arts including boxing are not suitable for urban self defence, no harder to mug Mike Tyson than me, you go up to him and stick a knife at his throat ask for his wallet. In fact I would put my chances higher of not getting hurt as I would hand it over without an argument and he is more likely to be suffering from excessive testosterone than me

I don't get this. So what if YOU would just hand over your wallet? Who cares? Just because YOU would do that, does that mean everyone else must do that too? A person walking along need not hand over his belongings to all that ask for it - this is not Jesus-land where everyone just forsakes their possessions and turns the other cheek no matter who slaps them. You are free to practice your weird belief any way you want, but please, fuck off with the Christians and let the rest of us live our lives as we see fit too.

So I'm not sure you can prepare for self defence only falsely try to get other people to

It's only arguably false. You opine that it's not possible to prepare for self-defense. There are definitely arguments and evidence showing that people can, in fact, prepare for self-defense. Your mere declaration that it is "false" is just that - your own view of it, backed up by nothing.

[MrJonno]

People can't print what they like?

No , not in the UK, not in the US not anywhere

Now what they can and can't print is up to debate, but I start of with the position that sometimes it is justify as does every nation does on Earth does

[Seth]

Seth edits videos? Gun videos?

Yes, in point of fact I do, although not that one.

[Coito ergo sum]

People can't print what they like?

No , not in the UK, not in the US not anywhere

Now what they can and can't print is up to debate, but I start of with the position that sometimes it is justify as does every nation does on Earth does

The context of what I wrote was arguably truthful information. In the US, any opinion is protected and any information that is truthful, and almost all information that is "false" (absent a sliver of material that rises to the level of injurious frauds) and injurious libels to nonpublic figures.

The idea that someone can't print a document saying "learn karate for self defense" is odd indeed. I mean, in the US, the ACLU successfully defended the North American Man-Boy Love Associaton (NAMBLA) and the American Nazi Party and their rights to publish their ideas on fucking little boys and anti-Jew respectively. Not sure how much closer to absolute free speech you can get.