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[Cunt]

I guess the reasons for the various protests are irrelevant.

At the level of 'protester' or 'rioter', it's obviously different, but this IS pretty true.

Doesn't matter HOW you got caught up in a crowd, once the riot starts, they are all rioters.

What's with this need for everyone to be the same, really?

I'd like the 'same' under law. Or the 'same' with regards to treatment of serious issues. The capitol attack was bad, for sure. Why is it so hard to blame politicians for it?

Ditto for BLM riots.

In both cases, the 'regular people' would have no interest in criminality. Add politicians, and their encouragement, and look what the results are.

[Sean Hayden]

That's not my point. I'm genuinely curious as to why you need everyone to be the same. In every political discussion I've seen you have you never do more than point out the similarities between sides. The total of your output amounts to yeahbut, what about you; even when the differences between sides are as great as fighting to end centuries of oppression vs fighting for Trump.

It's weird.

[Sean Hayden]

It looks to me like Crowder is just carrying water for the Republican Party's attempt to sweep their encouragement of and complicity in Trump's coup attempt under the rug. Nice gig for him. He gets clicks from their fans, and he and his cheering section can yap about what a BIG SHOW he has.

Sneering at people for having entirely normal reactions to violence isn't just immoral, however. It also seems like it's not too smart, politically speaking. But Republicans have backed themselves into a corner, having decided that the best approach to the Capitol insurrection is to minimize it and refuse to hold Trump accountable for inciting the riot. Now every story about Capitol police being attacked or congressional staffers hiding in terror makes them look — correctly, mind you — like absolute monsters. No wonder they're scared of these stories, so scared they're reverting to sleazy tactics to silence anyone with a story to tell.

[source]

That was a great read, and encouraging.

[Brian Peacock]

I guess the reasons for the various protests are irrelevant.

At the level of 'protester' or 'rioter', it's obviously different, but this IS pretty true.

Doesn't matter HOW you got caught up in a crowd, once the riot starts, they are all rioters.

What's with this need for everyone to be the same, really?

I'd like the 'same' under law. Or the 'same' with regards to treatment of serious issues. The capitol attack was bad, for sure. Why is it so hard to blame politicians for it?

Ditto for BLM riots.

In both cases, the 'regular people' would have no interest in criminality. Add politicians, and their encouragement, and look what the results are.

A mob is a mob is a mob, eh?

[Cunt]

That's not my point. I'm genuinely curious as to why you need everyone to be the same.

The same under law.

There was a statue, with a blinded person representing justice. I think it's a better idea than laws being available for use only by select groups. Being on the outside of groups gives me a unique sensitivity to that kind of unfair play.

In every political discussion I've seen you have you never do more than point out the similarities between sides. The total of your output amounts to yeahbut, what about you; even when the differences between sides are as great as fighting to end centuries of oppression vs fighting for Trump.

It's weird.

I don't see oppression as opposite to Trump. Can you show us where he restricted your liberties?

Seriously, he did a bunch of peace shit, didn't start any wars...what did he do to oppress you?

[Sean Hayden]

A desire to see people treated equally by the law doesn't account for your need for everyone to be the same.

Crowder harasses a victim: the victim would do the same.

Am I mistaken to think this is your approach to every issue?

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If you want to deny that BLM is a response to centuries of oppression that's fine. It may even lead to you sharing something beyond the superficial similarities you're so hung up on.

[Cunt]

A desire to see people treated equally by the law doesn't account for your need for everyone to be the same.

Crowder harasses a victim: the victim would do the same.

Am I mistaken to think this is your approach to every issue?

Yes, you are. I do approach a lot of them by looking at the 'fairness' though. for instance, when the Vox adpocalypse happened.

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If you want to deny that BLM is a response to centuries of oppression that's fine. It may even lead to you sharing something beyond the superficial similarities you're so hung up on.

If you want me to deny something, you would have to clarify whether you meant the corporate entity, the sentiment, or a specific group of activists. Those lines are too blurry for anyone to make blanket statements.

[Sean Hayden]

Crowder harasses a victim: the victim would do the same.

MAGA goons attack the Capitol: what about BLM.

I can provide more examples if you need them.

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Nonsense. If you don't think BLM is a response to oppression then share why.

[Cunt]

Crowder harasses a victim: the victim would do the same.

MAGA goons attack the Capitol: what about BLM.

I can provide more examples if you need them.

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Nonsense. If you don't think BLM is a response to oppression then share why.

I didn't say that. I asked you to clarify if you meant, the sentiment, the corporate entity, or a particular small activist group.

[Sean Hayden]

Here's a funny one, in it you make QAnon and CNN the same.

Q seems to vilify the wealthiest, most powerful people and organizations in the world, blaming them for all the problems of the proles.

CNN seems to vilify proles.

Neither is all that convincing, with their error records.

[Cunt]

Here's a funny one, in it you make Q and CNN the same.

Q seems to vilify the wealthiest, most powerful people and organizations in the world, blaming them for all the problems of the proles.

CNN seems to vilify proles.

Neither is all that convincing, with their error records.

Both are storytellers. Both are spouting lies and truths, to serve their agendas.

It was my point, that both are as believable as the other. Not to say Q is good, but to point out that CNN is no better.

[Sean Hayden]

I know.

[Sean Hayden]

Crowder harasses a victim: the victim would do the same.

MAGA goons attack the Capitol: what about BLM.

I can provide more examples if you need them.

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Nonsense. If you don't think BLM is a response to oppression then share why.

I didn't say that. I asked you to clarify if you meant, the sentiment, the corporate entity, or a particular small activist group.

I get it. I'm saying it's unnecessary. You won't find an analysis from any perspective that doesn't tie everything into oppression or the perception of it. So, there's really nothing stopping you from saying what you think, especially not my having failed to be specific enough for you.

[Cunt]

Crowder harasses a victim: the victim would do the same.

MAGA goons attack the Capitol: what about BLM.

I can provide more examples if you need them.

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Nonsense. If you don't think BLM is a response to oppression then share why.

I didn't say that. I asked you to clarify if you meant, the sentiment, the corporate entity, or a particular small activist group.

I get it. I'm saying it's unnecessary. You won't find an analysis from any perspective that doesn't tie everything into oppression or the perception of it. So, there's really nothing stopping you from saying what you think, especially not my having failed to be specific enough for you.

If you want to spar, find a willing sparring partner.

As to what I think, I say so sometimes. The moderation around some subjects causes me to avoid them here, though. Makes communication clumsy. Sorry about that. I'm at mindromp sometimes, too.

[Sean Hayden]

I looked into Mindromp years ago, but their refusal to do anything about some guy who did nothing but insult others--and harshly--24/7, turned me off.

Turns out I like a bit of moderating.