Erdogan organised the coup.

[Svartalf]

I already stated as much, and I'm pretty sure of it... the coup attempt was just too inept, and the reaction too well prepared.

When the Turkish military plan a coup, the coup happens and it was set up by Ataturk to do so.

except of course Erdo^gan pulled the army's teeth years ago, and this latest coup was so inept it didn't seem planned at all... or more likely it was planned, planned to fail miserably as it did.

[mistermack]

When you look at the bare statistics, it's inconceivable that Erdogan didn't know beforehand.

7,500 arrested including 300 PRESIDENTIAL GUARDS !!
9,000 police fired
nearly 3,000 judges fired

plus loads of other examples.

Even if those numbers are wrong, what sort of intelligence service would not know that a coup was in the offing, if all of these people knew something about it?

[Tyrannical]

When you look at the bare statistics, it's inconceivable that Erdogan didn't know beforehand.

7,500 arrested including 300 PRESIDENTIAL GUARDS !!
9,000 police fired
nearly 3,000 judges fired

plus loads of other examples.

Even if those numbers are wrong, what sort of intelligence service would not know that a coup was in the offing, if all of these people knew something about it?

Ummmm, I think he's using it as an excuse to arrest everyone he doesn't like. He's trying to go full blown dictator. Fired 50k teachers too I think? I'm sure all his political opponents will be next. Got to get rid of the unfriendly judges first.......

[Hermit]

When you look at the bare statistics, it's inconceivable that Erdogan didn't know beforehand.

7,500 arrested including 300 PRESIDENTIAL GUARDS !!
9,000 police fired
nearly 3,000 judges fired

plus loads of other examples.

Even if those numbers are wrong, what sort of intelligence service would not know that a coup was in the offing, if all of these people knew something about it?

He didn't. Tranny is right for once. The parallels with the 1933 Reichstag fire, which was the perfect pretext for Hitler getting one step closer to dictatorship, are too obvious to not having been noticed. For example: http://www.politico.eu/article/erdogans ... p-attempt/

[Tyrannical]

Though galaxies can be partly right too. Erdogan could have been aware or assumed a coup plot and had a plan to take advantage of it. Why bother planning a fake coup if you can be one step ahead of them.

[Hermit]

Though galaxies can be partly right too. Erdogan could have been aware or assumed a coup plot and had a plan to take advantage of it. Why bother planning a fake coup if you can be one step ahead of them.

True. That is exactly what happened with the Princess Dianna conspiracy. 2:08 - 4:50 of this documentary is about it.

[Tyrannical]

Princess Diana? Poison then cremation. Problem solved unless you're stupid and use arsenic.

[pErvinalia]

When you look at the bare statistics, it's inconceivable that Erdogan didn't know beforehand.

7,500 arrested including 300 PRESIDENTIAL GUARDS !!
9,000 police fired
nearly 3,000 judges fired

plus loads of other examples.

Even if those numbers are wrong, what sort of intelligence service would not know that a coup was in the offing, if all of these people knew something about it?

That he knew it was being planned doesn't mean that he planned it.

[Svartalf]

much more convenient to plan it yourself, independent agents might do it competently and give you problems.

[pErvinalia]

Jeez, everyone has turned into Galaxian around here!

[Svartalf]

We all recognize the power of the reptilian overlords

[rainbow]

I already stated as much, and I'm pretty sure of it... the coup attempt was just too inept, and the reaction too well prepared.

When the Turkish military plan a coup, the coup happens and it was set up by Ataturk to do so.

except of course Erdo^gan pulled the army's teeth years ago, and this latest coup was so inept it didn't seem planned at all... or more likely it was planned, planned to fail miserably as it did.

For a good insight into Turkish politics read the novel "Snow" by Orhan Pamuk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_(Pamuk_novel)

It is chilling in how it describes a Turkish coup (albeit on a smaller scale)

[DRSB]

Western silence on Turkey is deafening, after Amnesty confirms their worst fears
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/26/west ... rst-fears/

[JimC]

Well, what can the west do?

Other than never, ever admit Turkey to the EU...

[Svartalf]

yeah, we'd need a method for expelling rogue members before we can do that.