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Post by Lozzer » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:40 pm

If one was to admit, right now, that if offered the opportunity to partake in the dissident republican group the R.I.R.A, what would you think? I'm not particularly sure how to phrase this, but I do sympathise with the RIRA. This would offend some, but any radical republican cause has my support. As someone of Irish and Catholic background, I like to think I know their angst. And as an avid idoliser of Thomas Paine and the American Revolution, my favour will always float to that political spectrum. I don't like what the RIRA do. I don't like who they are, and I really can't stand their methods of sustaining a public presence. I'm an Englishman, and while I can concede responsibility for what I've done. But I can't accept responsibility for what I am.

This country is slithery, and its government is seditious to the great democratic cause of republicanism. I feel betrayed by its institutions and isolated by the average citizen. I can't identify myself with being British, I'd sooner see myself as a member of a large international community. In other words, I want to be a citizen of the world. Britian does not permit me this. I've never felt so alone in England, and despite my familiarity with other nationals on this forum: I'd sooner see a fellow Englishman see the error of his monarch's ways. To be less vague, I'd be proactive in the Irish republican cause if it meant appreciation and a sense of real solidarity. The RIRA aren't an ideal form of rebellion, or republican group, but they're the only ones active. New ones could be encouraged to arise, but this damnable place hasn't the political will for anything other than an independent enquiry.

I don't think any Irishman here will share my sentiment, but whatever. I don't think Ireland needs a return to The Troubles, and it's a shame if the RIRA continue in their persistence there. But if they were to bring the fight to England...I wouldn't complain.





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Post by devogue » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:47 pm

The RIRA are the scum of the Earth.

They represent no one but themselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing/

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Post by Tortured_Genius » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:50 pm

Peaceful dissent within a democratic framework is a good and positive thing.

Violence, killing people and the terrorist methods employed by the RIRA are wholelly bad and unjustifiable given that they could peacefully protest, stand for election, etc, etc.

Dissent is not the problem - the methods used are. You could agree with their cause whilst disagreeing with their methods.

Agreement with their methods however is, erm, not good.

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Post by Lozzer » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:50 pm

devogue wrote:The RIRA are the scum of the Earth.

They represent no one but themselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing/

So I've heard, but how do they differentiate from the IRA?
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Post by Animavore » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:56 pm

When I was as young and naive as you I would've agreed.
The cunts are nothing but a bunch of drug-dealers masquerading as moralistic vigilantes. What a fucking laugh. The only reason they were going around scaring of Dublin drug-dealers was so they could take the territory and run the drugs themselves.

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Post by owtth » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:58 pm

Lozzer wrote:
So I've heard, but how do they differentiate from the IRA?

They don't really, they're still just fucking gangsters.
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Post by Arse » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:07 pm

But if they were to bring the fight to England...I wouldn't complain.


Yeah, yeah. Unless, of course, you or someone close to you got on the receiving end of their "fight." :roll:
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Post by Lozzer » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:11 pm

owtth wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
So I've heard, but how do they differentiate from the IRA?

They don't really, they're still just fucking gangsters.

Which liberated most of Ireland...
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Post by Godless Libertarian » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:12 pm

Lozzer wrote:And as an avid idoliser of Thomas Paine and the American Revolution, my favour will always float to that political spectrum.
Yay! :clap:
Lozzer wrote:The RIRA aren't an ideal form of rebellion, or republican group, but they're the only ones active.
But you do not want that stigma associated with you if you ever want to get anything done in the name of republicanism. You're better off being the lone chirping cricket of the "English republican movement" than associating yourself with controversial groups, even if they do have their merits.
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Post by Feck » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:18 pm

Lozzer you are wrong on this one! Even if any respect was due to some of the republicans that "fought" for the cause years ago the RIRA are murdering scum that will not give up killing people
because they like the power -trip and the fear and the guns .
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Post by MrJonno » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:42 pm

The RIRA have about as much to do with politics and revolution as the Telly Tubbies. Terrorism normally implies some sort of political aim while all they have are drug dealing aims so they actually demean the word terrorism
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Re: RIRA

Post by klr » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:50 pm

owtth wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
So I've heard, but how do they differentiate from the IRA?

They don't really, they're still just fucking gangsters.
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Re: RIRA

Post by owtth » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:08 pm

Lozzer wrote:
Which liberated most of Ireland...
:shock:
Those guys died a good while ago.
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Re: RIRA

Post by Stublore » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:26 am

owtth wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Which liberated most of Ireland...
:shock:
Those guys died a good while ago.
And they did not fund their rebellion by going around extorting protection money from the drug dealers!
RIRA are more about money than politics.
Iirc they are the ones alleged to have burnt to the ground 2 headshops in Dublin because the owners would not pay 5K a month on protection, and probably also because it was taking money away from the more unsavoury drug dealers.
In conclusion they are closer to the Mafia, than to the men who fought in 1916, and who would probably be the first to shoot the fuckers if they were still alive today!

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