Government told to halt use of AI to detect fraud in decision hailed by privacy campaigners
A Dutch court has ordered the immediate halt of an automated surveillance system for detecting welfare fraud because it violates human rights, in a judgment likely to resonate well beyond the Netherlands.
The case was seen as an important legal challenge to the controversial but growing use by governments around the world of artificial intelligence (AI) and risk modelling in administering welfare benefits and other core services.
Campaigners say such “digital welfare states” – developed often without consultation, and operated secretively and without adequate oversight – amount to spying on the poor, breaching privacy and human rights norms and unfairly penalising the most vulnerable.
Welfare surveillance system violates human rights, Dutch court rules
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--smart people behaving horribly again.
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and every man his old clothes. In addition each is fined 25 cents if
he or she does not have a patch on his or her clothing. If these
parties become a regular thing, says an exchange, won't there be
a good chance for newspaper men to shine?
The Silver State. 1894.
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If we just ate the poor we wouldn't have these problems, and think of the carbon savings.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Let the poor colonize space. If we throw enough of them at the problem we can work out the kinks and join them later.
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The latest fad is a poverty social. Every woman must wear calico,
and every man his old clothes. In addition each is fined 25 cents if
he or she does not have a patch on his or her clothing. If these
parties become a regular thing, says an exchange, won't there be
a good chance for newspaper men to shine?
The Silver State. 1894.
and every man his old clothes. In addition each is fined 25 cents if
he or she does not have a patch on his or her clothing. If these
parties become a regular thing, says an exchange, won't there be
a good chance for newspaper men to shine?
The Silver State. 1894.
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Our CentreLink service tried the same sort of automated fraud detection, and ended up falsely penalising a whole heap of people. I think the system has been quietly retired...
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Call me sentimental, but I have a strong aversion to eating anything with 46 chromosomes, no matter how good the gravy is.laklak wrote:If we just ate the poor we wouldn't have these problems, and think of the carbon savings.
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OK how about Down's kids? They got 47.
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How good is the gravy?
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Asian gravy - Mongolian spices.
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Too bony, and you get greater savings on a billionaire, than 1000 poor people.



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Bone broth.
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Billionaires are hard to catch, there aren't many of them around and they have defenses. But you can bait poor people with lots of things. Lottery tickets, beer, canned corned beef, Big Mac. Can always put them in the feedlot and fatten then up.
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