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by Callan » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:07 pm
Rum wrote:Callan wrote:Rum wrote:It is hard to have much sympathy for the guy they killed, but I do find it curious that a hierarchy of evil doing clearly still prevails amongst those locked up for transgressing it in the first place.
I see you've never been married to an ex-con, Rum.
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by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:23 pm
Tyrannical wrote:Funny how people against the death penalty don't seem to mind jail house murders of prisoners.
There's a difference between the state sanctioning murder as punishment, and a bit of natural justice. But having said that, I'd expect prisons where this happened to tighten up their security in this regard.
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by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:24 pm
Rum wrote:It is hard to have much sympathy for the guy they killed, but I do find it curious that a hierarchy of evil doing clearly still prevails amongst those locked up for transgressing it in the first place.
Yeah, I always find this concept bizarre. Like regular murderers are some sort of paragon of morality that they can judge other worse criminals.
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by cronus » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:29 pm
rEvolutionist wrote:Rum wrote:It is hard to have much sympathy for the guy they killed, but I do find it curious that a hierarchy of evil doing clearly still prevails amongst those locked up for transgressing it in the first place.
Yeah, I always find this concept bizarre. Like regular murderers are some sort of paragon of morality that they can judge other worse criminals.
There are heinous murderers and then your everyday murdering scum. If you can't dig that you'll not live very long in a lawless land.
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by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:31 pm
I don't buy it. Most murderers are immoral scum. If I was to be a murderer, I would be a Dexter like murderer. In that case, I would be morally superior.
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by cronus » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:42 pm
rEvolutionist wrote:I don't buy it. Most murderers are immoral scum. If I was to be a murderer, I would be a Dexter like murderer. In that case, I would be morally superior.
There are all kinds of murderers. Impossible to generalize with such a diverse crowd. Don't know any I'm aware of but I've met some people that might be in my life.
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by Robert_S » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:47 pm
What was it Dawkins said about situations like this?
Something about on one level thinking "Oh you poor pathetic malfunctioning human" while on a gut level feeling something more along the lines of "Die scum!"
Anyway, I'd rather be non-existent than live with having tortured and killed a child.
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by Audley Strange » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:32 pm
Scrumple wrote:If they brought back the death penalty these things wouldn't happen so much.

Actually, you might find
more criminals with broken necks and crushed windpipes, unless they use the chair or the needle.
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by Blind groper » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:09 am
In the USA, criminals who are executed cost the taxpayer, on average, 250% of the cost of keeping that same criminal in prison for life. The reason for this counter-intuitive statistic is that people on death row use every legal avenue they can to avoid the penalty. This means appeals, new court cases, and legal shenanigans of all kinds. When a single trial can cost millions, it is much cheaper to keep them in prison ($100,000 per year) for life.
So why not avoid all the ethical problems of the death penalty, and simply lock them up till they die of old age? In fact, I would suggest releasing them when they get too old to walk normally. An infirm geriatric is not much of a risk to society.
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by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:32 am
Blind groper wrote:In the USA, criminals who are executed cost the taxpayer, on average, 250% of the cost of keeping that same criminal in prison for life. The reason for this counter-intuitive statistic is that people on death row use every legal avenue they can to avoid the penalty. This means appeals, new court cases, and legal shenanigans of all kinds. When a single trial can cost millions, it is much cheaper to keep them in prison ($100,000 per year) for life.
Death Penalty is good for the economy!

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