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by Chinaski » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:18 pm
The Progress Report wrote:RADICAL RIGHT -- PASTOR RICK WARREN REFUSES TO CONDEMN UGANDAN LAW MAKING HOMOSEXUAL ACTS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH: The Ugandan parliament is currently considering an "Anti-Homosexuality Bill," under which any person "convicted of gay sex is liable to life imprisonment." If that person is HIV positive or has sex with a minor or a person with a disability, he or she would be guilty of "aggravated homosexuality" and face the death penalty. The bill also proposes up to three years of imprisonment for anyone who "fails to report within 24 hours the identities of everyone they know who is lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, or who supports human rights for people who are." There are approximately 500,000 gay men and women living in Uganda. The author of the bill is Ugandan Parliamentarian David Bahati, who organizes the Ugandan National Prayer Breakfast and has been embraced by the far right in the United States. Journalist Jeff Sharlet, who has chronicled the secretive international Christian organization known as "The Family," says Bahati is "a core member" of the group, which has links to prominent U.S. politicians. Pastor Rick Warren -- whom President Obama controversially chose to deliver the invocation at his inauguration -- is now refusing to condemn Bahati's bill, which has been endorsed by Ugandan pastor Martin Ssempa. Ssempa has been welcomed by Warren's family and made appearances at his church. Newsweek reports that although Warren has distanced himself from Ssempa's views, he won't come out against the Anti-Homosexuality Bill. "t is not my personal calling as a pastor in America to comment or interfere in the political process of other nations," said Warren. Both UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper have publicly condemned the Ugandan bill. Yesterday, on the eve of World AIDS Day, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "made the strongest statement yet by an administration official that the United States will not tolerate efforts to criminalize homosexuality among countries that receive U.S. funding to combat HIV/AIDS."

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by klr » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:22 pm
The shit is seriously going to hit the fan over this one.
Seriously.

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by AshtonBlack » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:25 pm
klr wrote:The shit is seriously going to hit the fan over this one.
Seriously.

No, it fucking won't. That's the worst part, in my opinion. I mean, as a punishment the US implied that it will cut off AIDS/HIV charity money? Are you fucking kidding me?

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by devogue » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:27 pm
Cunts.
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by klr » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:28 pm
AshtonBlack wrote:klr wrote:The shit is seriously going to hit the fan over this one.
Seriously.

No, it fucking won't. That's the worst part, in my opinion. I mean, as a punishment the US implied that it will cut off AIDS/HIV charity money? Are you fucking kidding me?

Well, I agree with you up to a point. But IMHO, the Rick Warren angle will help get this story more visibility than it might otherwise have received, which might still be short of what it actually deserves.
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by AshtonBlack » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:29 pm
We shall see. Oh, damn I'm getting cynical.
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by charlou » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:10 am
de Vogüé wrote:Cunts.
The Progress Report wrote:The bill also proposes up to three years of imprisonment for anyone who "fails to report within 24 hours the identities of everyone they know who is lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, or who supports human rights for people who are."
Fucking Evil Cunts.
As are anyone who won't condemn this "bill".
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by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:28 am
The bill is abhorrent but I couldn't blame anyone who has to live there for for not publicly condemn it.
Uganda must be a pretty terrifying place to just live in if one is subject to such brutal leadership - let alone speaking up against it.

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by charlou » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:32 am
Bri wrote:The bill is abhorrent but I couldn't blame anyone who has to live there for for not publicly condemn it.
Uganda must be a pretty terrifying place to just live in if one is subject to such brutal leadership - let alone speaking up against it.

I agree. I meant those proposing the bill, including that particularly nasty aspect I quoted, are fucking evil cunts, as are those who don't live in that country and yet don't have the human decency to roundly condemn the bill.
I don't usually use the word 'evil' ... but here I cannot think of a word more fitting.
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by Rum » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:27 am
This is a country where people still regularly practice voodoo, go to witch doctors for medical treatment to put curses on people . I am not in the least surprised.
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by Chinaski » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:04 am
Well, Rick Warren just squared his douchebaggery. And I'm waiting for the Pope to condemn this. If he doesn't I'm going postal on the messageboards.
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by JimC » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:52 am
Interesting connection that it is the African Anglican bishops who lead the opposition to any liberalisation of the church as far as homosexuality goes...
But the Ugandan situation seems to be just the standard response of unpleasant dictatorships the world over...
Has there ever been a dictatorial form of government that has tolerated homosexuals?

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by AshtonBlack » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:59 am
JimC wrote:Interesting connection that it is the African Anglican bishops who lead the opposition to any liberalisation of the church as far as homosexuality goes...
But the Ugandan situation seems to be just the standard response of unpleasant dictatorships the world over...
Has there ever been a dictatorial form of government that has tolerated homosexuals?

Certain Roman Emperors?
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by Horwood Beer-Master » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:41 pm
It comes to something when two men can be killed for 'discussing Uganda'
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by Azathoth » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:54 pm
Death penalty for knowingly spreading HIV, sodimising children or the mentally handicapped I can go for. The rest is bullshit. Fucking savages.
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