To Mars in 30 days - by fusion rocket

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To Mars in 30 days - by fusion rocket

Post by klr » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:18 am

NASA, and plenty of private individuals, want to put mankind on Mars. Now a team at the University of Washington being funded by the space agency is about to start building a fusion engine that could get humans there in just 30 days and make other forms of space travel obsolete.

"Using existing rocket fuels, it's nearly impossible for humans to explore much beyond Earth," said lead researcher John Slough, a UW research associate professor of aeronautics and astronautics in a statement. "We are hoping to give us a much more powerful source of energy in space that could eventually lead to making interplanetary travel commonplace."

The proposed Fusion Driven Rocket (FDR) is a 150-ton system that uses magnetism to compress lithium or aluminum metal bands around a deuterium-tritium fuel pellet to initiate fusion. The resultant microsecond reaction forces the propellant mass out at 30 kilometers per second, and would be able to pulse every minute or so and not cause g-force damage to the spacecraft's occupants.

The spent fuel pellet is ejected behind the motor to provide propulsion, and because the whole process is magnetically controlled there's relatively little wear and tear on the engines. A pellet the size of a grain of sand would provide the same propellant as a gallon of conventional rocket fuel.

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More - including pictures, videos and links - here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/10 ... mars_trip/
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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:35 am

Hmm that's just excellent. Thanks, I was looking for something exactly like that.
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Post by klr » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:40 am

Audley Strange wrote:Hmm that's just excellent. Thanks, I was looking for something exactly like that.
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Post by FBM » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:51 am

Veeery interesting... :eddy:
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Post by rainbow » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:59 am

Just what the world needs now.

A huge money sink.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:06 am

I imagine the Republicans are solidly behind this.

A chance to send FDR to Mars?
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:08 am

Given the tight financial strictures of the US government this is unlikely, but the FDR engine has the potential to make chemical or ion drives for spacecraft as obsolete as the steam engine for earth-bound transportation.
What a joke, this technology will never get off the ground. Literally.
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Post by JimC » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:28 am

Tyrannical wrote:
Given the tight financial strictures of the US government this is unlikely, but the FDR engine has the potential to make chemical or ion drives for spacecraft as obsolete as the steam engine for earth-bound transportation.
What a joke, this technology will never get off the ground. Literally.
It would only be used in space, one imagines...
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Post by FBM » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:47 am

I imagine they would either construct it in space or get it aloft with conventional fuel before firing up the FDR engine.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:11 am

FBM wrote:I imagine they would either construct it in space or get it aloft with conventional fuel before firing up the FDR engine.
Yep, we learned from "Prometheus" exactly what happens when you fire up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere.

(What exactly did happen when they fired up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere?)
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Post by FBM » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:15 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
FBM wrote:I imagine they would either construct it in space or get it aloft with conventional fuel before firing up the FDR engine.
Yep, we learned from "Prometheus" exactly what happens when you fire up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere.

(What exactly did happen when they fired up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere?)

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:17 am

FBM wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
FBM wrote:I imagine they would either construct it in space or get it aloft with conventional fuel before firing up the FDR engine.
Yep, we learned from "Prometheus" exactly what happens when you fire up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere.

(What exactly did happen when they fired up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere?)

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Didn't see that, just the damn ship acting "normally". I guess that's another hole they never plugged.
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Post by FBM » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:24 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
FBM wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
FBM wrote:I imagine they would either construct it in space or get it aloft with conventional fuel before firing up the FDR engine.
Yep, we learned from "Prometheus" exactly what happens when you fire up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere.

(What exactly did happen when they fired up the ion engines in the lower atmosphere?)

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Didn't see that, just the damn ship acting "normally". I guess that's another hole they never plugged.
You're talking about a movie, aren't you? I think I read too much.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:25 am

You haven't d/l'd "Prometheus" yet?
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Post by FBM » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:32 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You haven't d/l'd "Prometheus" yet?
Mmm. Did we have a conversation about it? Was it more than 3 days ago? :ask:
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