A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

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A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Ian » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:25 pm

* "He who has command of the sea has command of everything." - Themistocles, Athens, circa 480BCE

* Goods are almost always cheapest when shipped by sea, hence seaborne commerce is vital to a robust economy. Because secure commerce is fundamental to maritime economic power, military and commercial capabilities at sea are interdependent. Domination of the seas is of the seas is of paramount importance in determining national supremacy. - Paraphrasing The Influence of Sea Power Upon History by Admiral Alfred Thayer Mahan, US Navy, 1873

* "Command of the sea is the indespensible basis of security, and whether the instrument which exercises that command swims, floats or flies is a mere matter of detail." - Admiral Sir Herbert Richmond, Royal Navy, 1946

* "The US Navy controls all of the oceans in the world. Whether it's a dhow off the African coast, a tanker in the Arabian Gulf, a junk in the South China Sea or a cabin cruiser in the Carribean, every ship in the world moves under the eyes of American satellites in space and its movement is guaranteed -or denied- at will by the US Navy. The combined naval force of the rest of the world doesn't come close to equalling that of the US Navy. This has never happened before in human history, even with Britain." - Dr. George Friedman, STRATFOR, 2008

* "...the US battle fleet is larger than the next 13 navies combined, 11 of which belong to allies and partners..." - Rober Gates, US Secretary of Defense, 2009

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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:34 pm

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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Feck » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:35 pm

Yet most of the conflicts the US are in don't seem to be solvable by massive fire power .
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:39 pm

Feck wrote:Yet most of the conflicts the US are in don't seem to be solvable by massive fire power .
Only because the politicians won't let us use it to the max. (Glass parking lot, anyone?)
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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Ian » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:42 pm

Most of the conflicts the US gets involved in aren't anywhere near the US, either. Nor have they involved serious challenges to US domination of the oceans, not since 1945. Naval power is about power projection.

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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Pensioner » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:47 pm

We used to control the seas Ian, when we had an empire that is. Empires come and go and its true to say that it is your turn to be the big guy on the block, make the most of it while you can because times are a changing.
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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Animavore » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:21 pm

Yeah. It'll be China next.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:22 pm

Animavore wrote:Yeah. It'll be China next.
"We're going to need a bigger boat."
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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:32 pm

My money is on India. Be good to have a Test cricket playing nation as top dog again.

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Clinton Huxley wrote:My money is on India. Be good to have a Test cricket playing nation as top dog again.
If you haven't read Debt of Honor yet . . .
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Post by normal » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:40 pm

Feck wrote:Yet most of the conflicts the US are in don't seem to be solvable by massive fire power .
Yet as good as NONE of the problems the US have are solvable by fire power.
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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:42 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:My money is on India. Be good to have a Test cricket playing nation as top dog again.
If you haven't read Debt of Honor yet . . .
Tom Clancy?

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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

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Clinton Huxley wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:My money is on India. Be good to have a Test cricket playing nation as top dog again.
If you haven't read Debt of Honor yet . . .
Tom Clancy?
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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:43 pm

Normal wrote:
Feck wrote:Yet most of the conflicts the US are in don't seem to be solvable by massive fire power .
Yet as good as NONE of the problems the US have are solvable by fire power.
Tell it to the dodo.
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Re: A Few Thoughts on Sea Power

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:44 pm

Feck wrote:Yet most of the conflicts the US are in don't seem to be solvable by massive fire power .
Such as?

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