US intelligence agencies lying about Iran?

[klr]

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But when the Communists come for you in your home, which they will eventually do if left unopposed, who will come and save you?

Newsflash: It's not the early 1950's anymore, and Joe McCarthy no longer holds sway.

[JimC]

I'm hearing the John Birch Society Blues...

[klr]

I'm hearing the John Birch Society Blues...

[JimC]

Thanks, Kev!

[Animavore]

Comments disabled. Probably a wise choice

[Coito ergo sum]

Not to mention broadening single instances into globally applicable truths.

In all fairness, although I generally vehemently disagree with Seth, he's not doing that here: Cuba, Venezuela, Soviet Union, Cambodia, China, Poland, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Afghanistan, Mongolia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Albania, Yugoslavia, Angola, Benin, Mozambique, Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia and Congo.

Which of those were or are nice places to live under Communism? Which of them did not involve crushing despotism, despoliation of human rights, and mass killings?

[Thumpalumpacus]

You shouldn't presume to opine on whose blood I am, am not, or have been willing to spend in defense of liberty and opposition to Communism. You don't know nearly enough about me to do so without being a fool.

You're advocating for a war that you know you wilil not be called-upon to fight. This is no presumption of mine; it is your own clear admission.

Each post you make on this topic confirms my initial impression of you. Fucking chickenhawk.

Reported.

Truth hurts.

You've lost the debate by resorting to ad hominem.

What debate? You just spouted nonsense, and don't like it when it was pointed out that you'll never have to pay the price for holding the views you hold.

I have no respect for a person who does crap such as that. You would push our service-members into a war while you stay nice and cozy at home. That isn't a presumption; that is a fact, by your own words.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Seeth wouldn't work with a military unit anyway, they have to work as a team.

[Thumpalumpacus]

So, you're trading in cowardice by ignoring your duty to personally oppose an evil ideology and by expecting other people to shed their blood to keep it on the other side of the planet from you.

Speaking of ad homs ...

But when the Communists come for you in your home, which they will eventually do if left unopposed, who will come and save you?

Appeal to fear much?

Oh yeah, I forgot. You do appeal to fear ... much.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Seeth wouldn't work with a military unit anyway, they have to work as a team.

Not to mention the fact that such duty requires a willingness to do more than flay the enemy with words. Most military duty can't be done with online courage.

[Seth]

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But when the Communists come for you in your home, which they will eventually do if left unopposed, who will come and save you?

Newsflash: It's not the early 1950's anymore, and Joe McCarthy no longer holds sway.

More's the pity because Joe McCarthy was right in every particular he brought before the Committee, and between the Venona decrypts, the recently released secret FBI records and a decades-long effort to discover the truth, history has completely vindicated him and his efforts to root out Communist spies, infiltrators, saboteurs and fellow-travelers that infested, and still infest the US government.

We need another Joe McCarthy in Congress to root out, expose the quislings, collaborators, spies, agents, saboteurs and disloyal traitors currently infesting our government, including the one in the oval office.

[Seth]

So, you're trading in cowardice by ignoring your duty to personally oppose an evil ideology and by expecting other people to shed their blood to keep it on the other side of the planet from you.

Speaking of ad homs ...

So? You give, you get. Besides, I didn't say you ARE a coward, merely that you're trading in cowardice.

But when the Communists come for you in your home, which they will eventually do if left unopposed, who will come and save you?

Appeal to fear much?

Oh yeah, I forgot. You do appeal to fear ... much.

Communism is deserving of fear, it's a very, very dangerous and evil ideology that must be destroyed root and branch, like cancer or the Mongol horde. If one doesn't fear Communism then one is either a Communist or one is simply too ignorant and stupid to be allowed out in public without a leash and a muzzle, and certainly nobody that stupid should be allowed to vote for anything.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Did you hear something, Thump?

[klr]

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But when the Communists come for you in your home, which they will eventually do if left unopposed, who will come and save you?

Newsflash: It's not the early 1950's anymore, and Joe McCarthy no longer holds sway.

More's the pity because Joe McCarthy was right in every particular he brought before the Committee, and between the Venona decrypts, the recently released secret FBI records and a decades-long effort to discover the truth, history has completely vindicated him and his efforts to root out Communist spies, infiltrators, saboteurs and fellow-travelers that infested, and still infest the US government.

We need another Joe McCarthy in Congress to root out, expose the quislings, collaborators, spies, agents, saboteurs and disloyal traitors currently infesting our government, including the one in the oval office.

[Seth]

You shouldn't presume to opine on whose blood I am, am not, or have been willing to spend in defense of liberty and opposition to Communism. You don't know nearly enough about me to do so without being a fool.

You're advocating for a war that you know you wilil not be called-upon to fight. This is no presumption of mine; it is your own clear admission.

So? My rights are in danger so I have a perfect right to call for war against Communism to protect my rights.

Each post you make on this topic confirms my initial impression of you. Fucking chickenhawk.

Reported.

Truth hurts.

You haven't stated a truth, merely a personal attack.

You've lost the debate by resorting to ad hominem.

What debate?

The one you were trying to win with your blatant revisionism and lies of course. Do try to pay attention.

You just spouted nonsense, and don't like it when it was pointed out that you'll never have to pay the price for holding the views you hold.

Wrong. If I don't call for war on Communism, Communism will come to my doorstep and try to kill me for holding these views. That's what it does to dissenters, always, without exception, everywhere the ideology rears its ugly head.

It might succeed in doing so ultimately, but before I submit I'll personally go to war against Communism and kill as many Communists as I possibly can before they take me, and I've the skills, experience and equipment to kill a lot of Communists if it comes to that. Feel free to test my resolve in that department personally, any time you like.

You won't find it quite so easy when you have to come out from behind your keyboard to defend your ideology.

I have no respect for a person who does crap such as that.

I have no respect for cowards and morons who are incapable of understanding the threat to individual liberty and world peace posed by Communism. In my experience they are most often ignorant child-adults living at home in mommy's basement and typing in their underwear on discussion fora, who have been indoctrinated and propagandized by our Marxist-dominated educational system to believe that Marxism and Communism are harmless political theories, and I've never encountered a single one of them who has ever had to live under a Communist regime much less face a screaming horde of Communists coming out of the jungle ready to kill them in the name of that evil ideology.

To a man, and a woman, they are ignorant, stupid, unthinking proletarian sheep who have never faced a day of hard labor in a gulag or a rice paddy with someone pointing an AK at their neck, and most likely never will only because there are people like me who continue to oppose Communism and it's evil influences on the world, and people like our military and our loyal politicians, who recognize themselves the dire threat that global Communism poses to liberty and democracy.

You would push our service-members into a war while you stay nice and cozy at home. That isn't a presumption; that is a fact, by your own words.

War is a young man's game, and that's what they get paid to do...and they are all volunteers, but I'd gladly go if they'd let me. The point is to fight the war against Communism over there, so we don't have to fight it here, in the streets, where everyone will either be a patriot or a traitor. I know which category I'd place you in.