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Re: You guys and your guns...

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:15 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Yep, about 95% of the people I killed weren't even in this time zone.
Well, we all know who gets killed in wars. Mostly innocent women and children.
I think "mostly" is an overstatement. But, if your point being is that innocent women and children are killed, then yes, indeed they are. Too many of them.
mistermack wrote: But funnily enough, you never get veterans bragging about the innocent children that they killed.

Strange that those two facts don't match, isn't it?
That is likely because the vast majority of veterans never had any desire to kill women, or children, or men. So, it stands to reason that they would not brag.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:17 pm

Give an 19 year old kid a radio and 16 fully-laden B-52s and ask him how many women and children he killed that day.
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Post by mistermack » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:19 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Yep, about 95% of the people I killed weren't even in this time zone.
Well, we all know who gets killed in wars. Mostly innocent women and children.

But funnily enough, you never get veterans bragging about the innocent children that they killed.

Strange that those two facts don't match, isn't it?
I've never bragged about killing kids, they're no challenge. I did write here about killing a kid about 13-14 years old because some asshole give him a rifle and put him on sentry duty without any training. That kind of shit happens in war time.
Yeh right, except that that's just more batman fantasy. Only bad men get killed.

I don't believe you. I go on evidence, and that tells me who mostly got killed by the heroic veterans. Innocent women, children and the elderly. You might be able to wipe it from your conscious, but don't expect me to swallow that bullshit.
If you are part of that army, you helped kill all those kids.
Perhaps I am a coward, perhaps not. But I've never taken part in genocide either. And if I had, I wouldn't be bragging about it years later.
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Re: You guys and your guns...

Post by Gallstones » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:21 pm

mistermack wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Yep, about 95% of the people I killed weren't even in this time zone.
Well, we all know who gets killed in wars. Mostly innocent women and children.

But funnily enough, you never get veterans bragging about the innocent children that they killed.

Strange that those two facts don't match, isn't it?
I've never bragged about killing kids, they're no challenge. I did write here about killing a kid about 13-14 years old because some asshole give him a rifle and put him on sentry duty without any training. That kind of shit happens in war time.
Yeh right, except that that's just more batman fantasy. Only bad men get killed.

I don't believe you. I go on evidence, and that tells me who mostly got killed by the heroic veterans. Innocent women, children and the elderly. You might be able to wipe it from your conscious, but don't expect me to swallow that bullshit.
If you are part of that army, you helped kill all those kids.
Perhaps I am a coward, perhaps not. But I've never taken part in genocide either. And if I had, I wouldn't be bragging about it years later.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:22 pm

Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:24 pm

mistermack wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Yep, about 95% of the people I killed weren't even in this time zone.
Well, we all know who gets killed in wars. Mostly innocent women and children.

But funnily enough, you never get veterans bragging about the innocent children that they killed.

Strange that those two facts don't match, isn't it?
I've never bragged about killing kids, they're no challenge. I did write here about killing a kid about 13-14 years old because some asshole give him a rifle and put him on sentry duty without any training. That kind of shit happens in war time.
Yeh right, except that that's just more batman fantasy. Only bad men get killed.

I don't believe you. I go on evidence, and that tells me who mostly got killed by the heroic veterans. Innocent women, children and the elderly. You might be able to wipe it from your conscious, but don't expect me to swallow that bullshit.
If you are part of that army, you helped kill all those kids.
Perhaps I am a coward, perhaps not. But I've never taken part in genocide either. And if I had, I wouldn't be bragging about it years later.
Wow.... just.... wow....

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Post by JimC » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:25 pm

Blind groper wrote:I think it is very sad that both mistermack and Seth go over the top with insulting and objectionable language. I am sure that both have valid points to make in the debate. However, most people, including myself, dismiss the arguments immediately, and there is a tendency to call them idiots (I am sure they are not) simply because it is hard to get past that awful language.

Now, especially for Seth. I am happy to address your arguments if you would care to rephrase them in a courteous form more suitable for debate. Otherwise, I will ignore them under the assumption they are worthless.
Very, very true...

Especially the tendency to call them idiots... ;)

However, like any normal distribution curve, each extreme end is tiny and rather unimportant in the scheme of things... :levi:
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Re: You guys and your guns...

Post by Gallstones » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:34 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!

Thank god we have the Brits to look up to because they never killed a child during war. And if one did I'm sure he at least shed a tear.

Sometimes the kid isn't "innocent".
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:36 pm

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:36 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!
No no. Merkins are bloodthirsty by nature. Nothin' better than baggin' a young 'un. It's an honor to receive the Congressional Medal of Infanticide. Lesser medals are awarded for Toddlercide, Prolicide, etc. But, the ever-coveted "Silver Jailbait Star", well, that is really the most sought after medal.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:38 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!

Thank god we have the Brits to look up to because they never killed a child during war. And if one did I'm sure he at least shed a tear.

Sometimes the kid isn't "innocent".
Ever watch Good Morning Viet Nam?
If you carefully define an enemy combatant to be "anyone in our designated war zone that we shot" then you could probably claim never to have killed a civilian.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:40 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!

Thank god we have the Brits to look up to because they never killed a child during war. And if one did I'm sure he at least shed a tear.

Sometimes the kid isn't "innocent".
Ever watch Good Morning Viet Nam?
If you carefully define an enemy combatant to be "anyone in our designated war zone that we shot" then you could probably claim never to have killed a civilian.
You seldom have time for careful definition. I know non-combatants have died due to my actions. I have to live with that.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:40 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!
No no. Merkins are bloodthirsty by nature. Nothin' better than baggin' a young 'un. It's an honor to receive the Congressional Medal of Infanticide. Lesser medals are awarded for Toddlercide, Prolicide, etc. But, the ever-coveted "Silver Jailbait Star", well, that is really the most sought after medal.
Wonder if drones can be awarded medals.....
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:43 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!

Thank god we have the Brits to look up to because they never killed a child during war. And if one did I'm sure he at least shed a tear.

Sometimes the kid isn't "innocent".
Ever watch Good Morning Viet Nam?
If you carefully define an enemy combatant to be "anyone in our designated war zone that we shot" then you could probably claim never to have killed a civilian.
Who defines enemy combatant that way? The British? :ask:

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:48 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Remember, if the Merkins invade somewhere, and a kid gets shot, it's the kids fault for being in a war zone. Dumb kid!
No no. Merkins are bloodthirsty by nature. Nothin' better than baggin' a young 'un. It's an honor to receive the Congressional Medal of Infanticide. Lesser medals are awarded for Toddlercide, Prolicide, etc. But, the ever-coveted "Silver Jailbait Star", well, that is really the most sought after medal.
Wonder if drones can be awarded medals.....
Yes, when the RAF pilots controlled drones in Libya, I wouldn't be surprised if they received medals from Her Royal Hindass

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