The Rich Paying Fair Share?

[Seth]

Tax avoidance has been called a national past time in Greece. They all want to enjoy the benefits of a generous government, but no one is willing to pick up the tab for it. That is definitely a socialist failure.

It's not tax avoidance, which is defined as constructing your economic affairs so that you do not owe taxes (which is legal), it's rampant tax EVASION going on in Greece. There's a whole separate black-market economy that runs parallel to the socialist one that people use to evade the onerous taxes Greece imposes in order to pay for its failed socialist social policies and the entitlements and emoluments it's promised to its legions of government workers, but which it cannot hope to pay.

[Beatsong]

This is because socialism, much less Communism, is an indefensible social system that relies on tyranny and oppression as a fundamental precept of the philosophy.

I thought you just insisted socialism and communism were the same thing?

No, I said, quite specifically, that socialism is a way-station on the path to communism, and it is. Marx himself said so.

Well, you did also say they were the same, but moving on:

You do realise that Marx is not the entirety of socialism, don't you?

[Seth]

This is because socialism, much less Communism, is an indefensible social system that relies on tyranny and oppression as a fundamental precept of the philosophy.

I thought you just insisted socialism and communism were the same thing?

No, I said, quite specifically, that socialism is a way-station on the path to communism, and it is. Marx himself said so.

Well, you did also say they were the same, but moving on:

You do realise that Marx is not the entirety of socialism, don't you?

Marx is the father of socialism, and the core components come directly from his asinine philosophy. Whatever others have grafted onto it since then is just metastasizing the cancer that is collectivism, not improving it.

[Horwood Beer-Master]

...relies on tyranny and oppression as a fundamental precept of the philosophy.

I'm sure the native Americans would call what was done to them "tyranny and oppression", whereas you call it "they lost, tough shit".

It seems you are wedded to the doctrine of "might is right" in all cases except those where the might is being welded by governments to the detriment of your oh-so-precious property rights.

Your opposition to taxation can best be summed up in the words of Bender from Futurama - "This is the worst kind of discrimination, the kind against me"