Census: Poor and "Near Poor" 1/3 of US

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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:23 pm

Seth wrote: :tantrum: :tantrum:
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Audley Strange wrote: :tantrum:
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Audley Strange wrote: :tantrum: :tantrum:
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Brilliant. I've reduced you to emoticons. You have no argument. I win.
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Audley Strange wrote:Brilliant. I've reduced you to emoticons. You have no argument. I win.
Well done! And he's still a liar.
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Audley Strange wrote:Brilliant. I've reduced you to emoticons. You have no argument. I win.
Sure, go ahead and make fun of poor people anytime you like.
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:27 pm

Seth wrote:
Svartalf wrote:and yes, people should be able to live on minimum wage. Minimum wage should be a living wage, not a misery allowance.
Wrong.

Minimum wage is intended to be an unskilled-labor entry-level wage, and every time they raise the minimum wage, more young people without skills lose their jobs and are unable to find jobs, in particular, black males in large cities.

This is because when the government mandates a higher minimum wage, it makes the unskilled, entry-level worker less of a value and more of a burden because of the need to supervise and teach them how to work, whereas a more experienced employee who is older, who already knows how to work, is a better buy for the employer, so the employer will discriminate against the first-time teenage job seeker in favor of an experienced job seeker.

Since few people remain in entry-level minimum wage jobs for long, and those that do probably aren't worth even that much if they are not able to improve their skill set to be deserving of a raise, trying to make minimum wage a "living wage" merely drives the unskilled and new job seekers out of the market entirely, leaving them with little or no chance to ever get a job or begin building job skills and a resume.

There should be NO minimum wage, and the concept of "apprenticeship" should be embraced by the Labor Department, wherein an unskilled new worker can go and seek an apprenticeship with a skilled journeyman worker who will take the new worker under his wing and teach him how to do a skilled job over time, offering room, board and a small stipend for so long as the apprentice works hard and shows promise.
and fog you up the azz, Mr capitalist, even the unskilled need to live off what they can make, and they should not have to slave away at juggling 2-5 jobs while the likes of paris hilton and the kardashians, hardly more skilled if at all, can just fly off to St Moritz for ski or the Caribbeans (or Pacific islands) for some sea sex and sun.
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Audley Strange wrote:Brilliant. I've reduced you to emoticons. You have no argument. I win.
And tell your new butt-buddy Seth "hi" for us all too.
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Post by Audley Strange » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:32 pm

Seth wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Brilliant. I've reduced you to emoticons. You have no argument. I win.
Well done! And he's still a liar.
Not to mention a backpeddling hypocritical self-satisfied bigot who uses (forgive me I'm pinching this from you,was it Alensky?) tactics because he cannot argue his position well enough.

I tell you something, when you I and Gawd can see it, considering how opposed we can be on many things, I'd say we'd got his number.
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Audley Strange wrote:you I and Gawd can see it
Snicker.
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:36 pm

:bored:

So much for discussions.
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Post by Audley Strange » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:37 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Brilliant. I've reduced you to emoticons. You have no argument. I win.
And tell your new butt-buddy Seth "hi" for us all too.
Certainly, I'll do so as we lubricate our arses with the tears of suffering coming from those who are dying because they don't have computers and you can go on talking about the sociopathic rich, the citizens of Libertardia and right wing fuckwits and pretend you're not just another tedious political bigot, who has the propaganda networks do his thinking for him.

I think I win again.
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Post by Audley Strange » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:39 pm

Psychoserenity wrote::bored:

So much for discussions.
Yeah I was going to get back to the excellent point you made about the distinction between disposable and discretionary income. It's a valid point and probably a good one to discuss, but when a retarded monkey keeps throwing shit at you, you occasionally have to wipe it off, you know?
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Psychoserenity wrote::bored:

So much for discussions.
What the fuck do you say to someone who insults you or lies every time they post?

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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:40 pm

Audley Strange wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:Brilliant. I've reduced you to emoticons. You have no argument. I win.
And tell your new butt-buddy Seth "hi" for us all too.
Certainly
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