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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Mon May 24, 2021 9:05 pm

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Melbourne has had another outbreak. Four new cases today. First cases in a couple of months. FFS Melbourne, get your shit together!
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon May 24, 2021 10:33 pm

All the people over 12 that want vaccinated will be by July. We will have to have annual boosters for the foreseeable future.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Tue May 25, 2021 1:37 am

Cunt wrote:
Sun May 23, 2021 7:16 pm
Hermit wrote:
Sun May 23, 2021 2:56 pm

So does just about everyone else, including the Biden administration
https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/fauci-ref ... -from-lab/
In a new interview out Friday, Redfield — who oversaw the CDC at the peak of the deadly global pandemic — said it was his “opinion” as a top virologist that SARS-CoV-2 “escaped” from the laboratory in Wuhan.

The highly contagious bug is widely accepted to have originated in animals before it adapted to humans.
'just about everyone else'.

Except the authorities speaking as politicians do.
The lab leak hypothesis was dismissed too early, by people who should know better.

Probably for 'optics'.
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Escaped...wuhan...are we still on this? You wear your conspiracy nut credentials well.
Escaped...wuhan...are you still stuck on the blue-anon script denying the possibility of a lab leak?

You must have missed this mornings update, from the infallible Fauci

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It's not a conspiracy theory to belief that an escaped virus from the lab is a possibility. But the experts that examined the data say it is improbable.

Claiming that the virus was engineered or released on purpose or claiming that you know it escaped from the lab are conspiracy theories.
Someone clever enough, and evil enough to engineer and release a virus would:
1. Release it in the country they wanted to target - so that rules out China. Why release it in your own back yard and take the blame?
2. Make the virus have a longer incubation period, so that more people would be infected
3. Make the virus more infectious so that large populations would be infected in a small time.
4. Make the virus affect younger people, rather than they old and co-morbid.

...so the conspiracy nuts haven't thought this through.
Fauci hadn't thought it through as thoroughly as Heying. No surprise, since he is primarily a politician, and she is a biologizer.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 25, 2021 3:41 am

What's blue-anon, other than your latest right wing buzz word?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

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pErvinalia wrote:
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What's blue-anon, other than your latest right wing buzz word?
It's the political 'other end' of qanon.

Where qanon folk would say 'q posted ...' the blueanon folk would say 'sources familiar with the presidents thinking said...'

Same baloney, just another way to describe the flavour differences.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 25, 2021 3:49 am

QAnon is a conspiracy. Journalism isn't. :fp:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

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pErvinalia wrote:
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QAnon is a conspiracy. Journalism isn't. :fp:
Who mentioned journalism?
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 25, 2021 4:25 am

sources familiar with the presidents thinking said...'
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Tue May 25, 2021 4:39 am

New restrictions coming into effect in Melbourne from tonight, in response to a fairly small cluster of 5 cases in the last few days (after months of none). Masks to be worn in shops as well as the existing requirement on public transport, no more than 5 visitors to a private home, no more than 30 in public gatherings and entertainment venues. A long way short of the severity of past lockdowns...
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Tue May 25, 2021 4:43 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 4:25 am
sources familiar with the presidents thinking said...'
That doesn't sound like journalism. Is it supposed to?

In other news, a rabbit-hole wander found me one of the most chilling phrases in recent memory.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30686635/
Transmission is a potential property of live viral vaccines that remains largely unexploited but may lie within the realm of many engineering designs.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Tue May 25, 2021 5:27 am

Cunt wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 4:43 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 4:25 am
sources familiar with the presidents thinking said...'
That doesn't sound like journalism. Is it supposed to?

In other news, a rabbit-hole wander found me one of the most chilling phrases in recent memory.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30686635/
Transmission is a potential property of live viral vaccines that remains largely unexploited but may lie within the realm of many engineering designs.
Luckily, the vast majority of current vaccines are not live!
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 25, 2021 6:50 am

Cunt wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 4:43 am
pErvinalia wrote:
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sources familiar with the presidents thinking said...'
That doesn't sound like journalism. Is it supposed to?
You tell me, troll. You used a phrase very common in journalism. Who else talks like that? :ask:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue May 25, 2021 9:00 am

Are not all the people vaccinated yet Jim?
A campaign is now under way to vaccinate the street dwellers. Once the European Health Passport comes into effect the anti-vaxxers are going to find life a little restricted.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 25, 2021 9:29 am


Cunt wrote:...

Escaped...wuhan...are you still stuck on the blue-anon script denying the possibility of a lab leak?

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If you'd kept abreast of the facts you'd know that the lab release hypothesis hasn't been 'denied', far from it, it's just that as an explanation it doesn't fit the available evidence as well as zoonotic transmission. Complaints that the lab release hypothesis is being unduly 'denied' are complaints that science has arrived at the 'wrong' conclusion - but holding that a certain conclusion should be given more priority or weight and then casting around for evidence to support it is merely the pseudo-scientific exercise of confirmation bias. Understanding basic scientific principles, methods and processes can help you here.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Tue May 25, 2021 9:34 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
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Are not all the people vaccinated yet Jim?
A campaign is now under way to vaccinate the street dwellers. Once the European Health Passport comes into effect the anti-vaxxers are going to find life a little restricted.
Given our low case numbers, and some anxiety over blood clotting, we've been a bit slow about vaccination, but it is ramping up now. My first jab next Sunday...
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