Carnivale Game Thread

[higgs2]

If we have a vig, Irre gave direct advice to the vig to take out Higgs.
If the vig is working for the cult, how did Irre die?

I think 'the vig' (still not convinced it's not an SK) would be working for irre ... I think it more likely irre was trying to look townish with the 'helpful advice' ... Earlier you'd asked about who we all think the vig should go for as a secondary vote thing.

hmmm .. that looks like you and irre working together, MZ.

No the vig works for town.

to charlou ^^

I meant "would NOT be working for irre" .. as is pretty obvious in the context of the rest of what I said ... Sorry for the error.

perhaps it should have been obvious to me, I just wanted to make sure we were clear. I didn't meant to correct you in an insulting manner.

[higgs2]

Has anyone ever heard of lovers not knowing they were lovers? I suppose that is possible but I am very skeptical. In the Dune game I was lovers with someone, and we were both town. I know we were lovers I'm not sure if they did.

[charlou]

arrggg .. back to trying to sort out who best to lynch today ... I'm going to cut through all the confusing distraction and go with vote Denny whose vote at the start of day 3 with no return to check if it was a good idea has me thinking he's too blase to be town.

[charlou]

I didn't meant to correct you in an insulting manner.

No worries, no offense taken.

[Magicziggy]

My secondary vote thing was just to get concensus to aid the vig. The vig had lucked out on zigmen and Mono. I couldn't blame the vig for those hits. Both were basically FOSed in the thread.

My comment about the vig working with Irre was based on the possibility of recruitment.

However, our vig has seen through Irre and taken her out. Doesn't this clear Higgs? I think it does.

[Magicziggy]

My vote today will come from UT, Denny, gib, squid.

I'm loathed to vote UT, as I still think there's achance of the lovers role coming into play.
That leaves Denny, gib and Squid.

[charlou]

FWIW, I think squid looks naive/townish with his vote on UT yesterday .. he didn't seem to get the risky implication of voting for one half of a lovers pair.

[Magicziggy]

Ok, I don't have a lot of experience with cults.
But I suppose the possibility remains that there indeed cult and scum left as two separate factions.
Now I have scenarios running in my head as well. And I've just had a glass of red which isn't helping.

The fact is we haven't hit a single scum. Only a cultist and a traitor.

[Magicziggy]

I need to look at all the NK action again.

[charlou]

Ok, I don't have a lot of experience with cults.
But I suppose the possibility remains that there indeed cult and scum left as two separate factions.
Now I have scenarios running in my head as well. And I've just had a glass of red which isn't helping.

The fact is we haven't hit a single scum. Only a cultist and a traitor.

Another reason it's more likely there's only town and scum (the cult), I would think?

[Magicziggy]

I hope so.

Night 1
Feck - garotted - scum kill
Zig - colt 45 - vig kill

Night 2
Mono/Ani - colt 45 - vig kill

Night 3
Irre - colt 45 - vig kill

Assume that scum are cult and can either recruit or kill.
Without the leader, they shouldn;t be able to recruit any more.

So two possible recruitments on nights 2 and 3.
If they started with 3, they'd be up to 4 now.

It's purely a numbers game for me.
I haven't focussed on Denny at all. His game has passed me by.
Let me re-read a few things.

[charlou]

Why are the colt kills scum kills? Isn't it more likely there was a one shot vig who garotted Feck and the rest are scum kills?

[charlou]

Why are the colt kills VIG kills? Isn't it more likely there was a one shot vig who garotted Feck and the rest are scum kills?

corrected

[charlou]

okay, reread your post and see where you're coming from with the numbers thing ..

I was thinking it's more like the don/cult leader (irre) on her own and recruiting from night 0 to build a scum team ...

[Magicziggy]

Why are the colt kills scum kills? Isn't it more likely there was a one shot vig who garotted Feck and the rest are scum kills?

Fuck, I hadn't even considered that.