Election 2016 Thread

[Tero]

Hillary must now show she loves the little people out there

Among Democrats’ concerns is the fact that Clinton spent a great deal of time over the summer raising millions of dollars in private fundraisers while Trump was devoting much of his schedule to rallies, speeches and TV appearances — although many of those didn’t go as well as his campaign may have hoped.

The Washington Post and Survey Monkey polled all 50 states. Here are the most surprising pieces of data we found. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
Clinton has focused more heavily on fundraising than Democratic strategists had hoped would be necessary at this stage, partly to help Democrats running for Congress and state offices who would be useful to Clinton if she is president and partly to hold off further erosion in the polls.

One new goal for Clinton now, aides said, is to spend more time trying to connect directly with voters by sharing a more personal side of herself — and by telling them where she wants to take the country.

[Forty Two]

Hillary must now show she loves the little people out there

Among Democrats’ concerns is the fact that Clinton spent a great deal of time over the summer raising millions of dollars in private fundraisers while Trump was devoting much of his schedule to rallies, speeches and TV appearances — although many of those didn’t go as well as his campaign may have hoped.

The Washington Post and Survey Monkey polled all 50 states. Here are the most surprising pieces of data we found. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
Clinton has focused more heavily on fundraising than Democratic strategists had hoped would be necessary at this stage, partly to help Democrats running for Congress and state offices who would be useful to Clinton if she is president and partly to hold off further erosion in the polls.

One new goal for Clinton now, aides said, is to spend more time trying to connect directly with voters by sharing a more personal side of herself — and by telling them where she wants to take the country.

[DRSB]

[Brian Peacock]

You got a thing for monkeys. Admit it!

[JimC]

Don't we all!

[DRSB]

Yes indeed, I am very fond of monkeys, feel strongly related to them.

[Animavore]

Last month, Donald Trump added Brooke Rollins and Kathleen Hartnett-White to his economic advisory council. Rollins is president and CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF), while Hartnett-White has worked for the TPPF and the CO2 Coalition (formerly the George C. Marshall Institute), all of which are part of the “web of denial” receiving funding from the fossil fuel industry.

Hartnett-White told POLITICO in an interview that rather than listen to the conclusions of the world’s foremost climate science experts as summarized in the IPCC reports, she favors a commission that would develop an “alternative scientific methodology” and would include the voices of the less than 3% of climate scientists who reject the consensus on human-caused global warming.

She believes “the sun had a powerful role” in global warming. However, the sun has had an overall cooling effect on global temperatures over the past 60 years, as the IPCC reports have shown. She also loves fossil fuels and seems entirely opposed renewable energy and efforts to cut carbon pollution.

Hartnett-White co-authored a book with Trump’s senior economic adviser Stephen Moore, as part of a TPPF effort to “explain the moral case for fossil fuels” and undermine the Obama Administration’s Clean Power Plan. Moore has compared fracking to the cure for cancer, is a frequent Fox News and Wall Street Journal contributor, and was a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation – another fossil fuel-funded member of the web of denial. Moore has been encouraging Trump to push hard in favor of fossil fuels and against renewable energy. As a resultTrump’s “economic vision” includes goals like:

Cancel the Paris Climate Agreement (limit global warming to 2 degrees Celsius) and stop all payments of U.S. tax dollars to U.N. global warming programs.

cont. http://www.skepticalscience.com/trump-g ... dding.html

There shouldn't even be a debate. It is far more crazy to vote Trump/Republicans at this time. They're playing a dangerous game.

[Forty Two]

Half the country thinks Hillary lied about her health -- I'm surprised it's that low. http://theweek.com/speedreads/648698/ha ... lth-public It's not really a question of what anyone thinks. She clearly lied.

30% thinks she'll die by 2020.

[Animavore]

[Forty Two]

Who cares what Republicans care about? Is a Presidential candidate's apparent seizure and multiple fainting spells, walking around with a nurse, pretending to be "feeling great!" while hugging a kid and suffering from pneumonia at the same time relevant or not?

Would there be legitimate interest in this if it was Trump who was engaging in the same incidents?

Just imagine that -- Trump comes out to participate in a 9/11 memorial wearing strange blue anti-seizure glasses, and then is seen passing out and having to be put into the back of his limo by several handlers, leaving his wingtip shoe on the ground like Cinderfella as the car speeds off.... he goes to his daughter's house instead of a doctor or hospital -- he comes out 2 hours later and stages a photo op where a small child runs up to him -- he waves and is asked "what happened?" to which he responds "I feel great" (not answer the question). Then he leaves, and a couple hours later, his campaign announces that he doesn't feel great, he really has had bacterial pneumonia and has been on antibioatics since Friday, and didn't tell anyone even though he has been in crowds of people, coughing, shaking hands, giving speeches and proceeding on as if he was fine. All this after weeks of declaring that interest in his health was a "dream" of his opponent and declaring that she should "dream on!" And, all that after all mention of his coughing fits, falling and strange seizure like episodes have been discounted as conspiracy theory.

It's fine to not support Trump. It's fine to support Hillary. But, please, let's not pretend that if Trump was doing EXACTLY what Hillary has been doing regarding this health issue, the pro-Hillary camp would be over him like flies on shit.

At least admit it's a real issue, FFS.

[Animavore]

Wasn't one of your Presidents in a wheelchair?

[Forty Two]

Wasn't one of your Presidents in a wheelchair?

Indeed, and don't you think that if a person couldn't walk, that it would be the public's right to know that they can't walk? Or, is it good to mislead the public by controlling the media such that people think he can walk when he can't?

Also, while Roosevelt had leg issues from Polio, he did not have issues that appeared to effect his mental faculties or subjected him to fainting episodes, being "confused often" (like Huma Abedin said of Clinton), falling down and freezing (causing a secret service agent to have to assure him that everything is o.k. and to "keep talking."

We also had a President that was, it is believed, completely incapacitated during his Presidency and the information was kept from the public such that the Vice President was not assigned the duty to take his place, instead the first lady appears to have taken over. http://www.historyandheadlines.com/firs ... overnment/ I don't think that's appropriate either.

[Animavore]

Well whatever Hillary has doesn't seem to effect her mental faculties either. Unlike whatever Trump has. So I see no problem.

[Scot Dutchy]

Well against Trump no contest. He is a moron.

[Forty Two]

Well whatever Hillary has doesn't seem to effect her mental faculties either. Unlike whatever Trump has. So I see no problem.

Except that she's had a concussion and a blood clot on her brain, and she has been referred to by her closest adviser - Huma Abedin -- as "often confused" in an email. She passes out and faints, and she freezes, and has gone into weird seizures while talking to people....

....surely there is at least something to inquire about there...?