The fear of North Korea

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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by Tero » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:57 pm

Very iffy, not ready for release intelligence.

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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by Warren Dew » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:48 am

FBM wrote:
N. Korea may be able to deliver nuke, Pentagon intel

(CNN) -- The Pentagon's intelligence arm has assessed with "moderate confidence" that North Korea has the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon with a ballistic missile though the reliability is believed to be "low."
Disclosed first by a congressman at a hearing on Thursday and then confirmed to CNN by the Defense Department, the assessment by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) is the clearest acknowledgment yet by the United States about potential advances in North Korea's nuclear program.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Well, that's a game changer...
You believe the Pentagon, but you didn't believe me when I told you the exact same thing 14 pages ago? I'm so disappointed!

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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:24 am

Warren Dew wrote:
FBM wrote:
N. Korea may be able to deliver nuke, Pentagon intel

(CNN) -- The Pentagon's intelligence arm has assessed with "moderate confidence" that North Korea has the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon with a ballistic missile though the reliability is believed to be "low."
Disclosed first by a congressman at a hearing on Thursday and then confirmed to CNN by the Defense Department, the assessment by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) is the clearest acknowledgment yet by the United States about potential advances in North Korea's nuclear program.

...
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Well, that's a game changer...
You believe the Pentagon, but you didn't believe me when I told you the exact same thing 14 pages ago? I'm so disappointed!
:hehe: I thought of your post the instant I saw the headline. I was waiting for your 'I told you so!' :D
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:25 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Trebuchet to get one across the border.
Good idea. Nobody would ever suspect a Canadian. :zilla:
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:33 am

Tero wrote:Very iffy, not ready for release intelligence.

You don't suppose maybe the Pentagon is trying the WMD claim approach, like the one that backfired on them after the Iraq War?
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:42 am

Clear, sunny day on the peninsula. Nice day for some experimental rocketry. :tea:
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:50 am

Could this be an invisible-WMD-type-ploy in order to justify pre-emptive action of some kind?
.......Or am I being overly cynical there? :ask:
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:58 am

:hehe: Two posts up....
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:03 am

:fp:

Still, it's good to know there are other, equally cynical folks on here.
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:07 am

:lol:
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by Feck » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:35 am

So is this time any different from any other time NK shows off ?
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:12 am

Feck wrote:So is this time any different from any other time NK shows off ?
Actually, yeah. The intensity, frequency, the sort of things they're doing. People are more worried this time.
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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by Warren Dew » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:53 am

FBM wrote::hehe: I thought of your post the instant I saw the headline. I was waiting for your 'I told you so!' :D
This isn't the only place I'm getting to say that. There are so many people out there who don't understand which bombs are difficult, and which are easy. It's almost as if they're not nuclear engineers!
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Feck wrote:So is this time any different from any other time NK shows off ?
Actually, yeah. The intensity, frequency, the sort of things they're doing. People are more worried this time.
There's a lot more press this time. However, aside from moving medium range missiles to the coast - presumably to avoid anything falling on North Korean land if there's a failure - they are reportedly not massing forces and there are no major military maneuvers. I expect a missile test on Monday, and not much else.

That said, buying them off to redismantle their nuclear program with some fuel oil might be a reasonable investment if we can hold talks in the meantime to encourage them to liberalize their economy. Of course, the latter may not happen until we ourselves get a government which believes in a liberal economy.

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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by Calilasseia » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:02 am

Warren Dew wrote:
FBM wrote::hehe: I thought of your post the instant I saw the headline. I was waiting for your 'I told you so!' :D
This isn't the only place I'm getting to say that. There are so many people out there who don't understand which bombs are difficult, and which are easy. It's almost as if they're not nuclear engineers!
And you are?

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Re: The fear of North Korea

Post by cronus » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:14 am

Dodgy dossier next. 48 minutes from doomsday. Softening joe public for the necessary pre-emptive.... :coffee:
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