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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Hermit » Wed May 15, 2013 2:53 pm

klr wrote:
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Hermit wrote:Would you care to reply to the gist of my post in addition to its opening clause?
Let's see ... Disney's policy on fast-tracking handicapped people is not intended to be some financial benefit scheme for handicapped people.
Of course not. Fast-tracking should only add to Disney's coffers. I really can't see how the discovery and use of a loophole by well-off patrons to obtain a discount in comparison to paying Disney directly is so reprehensible. Those dicks are doing no damage to anyone, bar Disney's profit margin while providing income to handicapped people.
No damage to anyone? If you are an honest person standing in line ...
...you'll be watching as other honest persons who paid for the privilege get fast access. Some of the latter paid Disney. Others paid privateers. As long as Disney allows for queue jumping in exchange for extra money, I don't see why others should not be able to just because they bypass official channels in the process.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Kristie » Wed May 15, 2013 2:54 pm

We went to Disney just days after hunt broke his toe. He had a very hard time walking or standing for long periods of time. We got him a wheelchair at the Disney entrance. Not every ride has the auxiliary entrance, but a lot of the good ones with typically long lines do. We got directed towards the handicapped line each time. Even after letting them know he wasn't handicapped. Wheelchairs just have to go through a certain way in order to be picked up easily after the ride.

Oh, and I don't remember who said it now and I'm not going to bother going back and checking, but Small World most definitely has lines over 2 hours long sometimes. If you go in the summer on a weekend, every damn ride there is at least an hour wait.

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Bella Fortuna » Wed May 15, 2013 2:56 pm

klr wrote:Just curious: Why would anyone pay extra (via either mechanism) if there's a free way already available to all? :dono:
A misplaced sense of superiority? :dunno: Who knows.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 2:57 pm

Hermit wrote:
klr wrote:
Hermit wrote:
klr wrote:
Hermit wrote:Would you care to reply to the gist of my post in addition to its opening clause?
Let's see ... Disney's policy on fast-tracking handicapped people is not intended to be some financial benefit scheme for handicapped people.
Of course not. Fast-tracking should only add to Disney's coffers. I really can't see how the discovery and use of a loophole by well-off patrons to obtain a discount in comparison to paying Disney directly is so reprehensible. Those dicks are doing no damage to anyone, bar Disney's profit margin while providing income to handicapped people.
No damage to anyone? If you are an honest person standing in line ...
...you'll be watching as other honest persons who paid for the privilege get fast access. Some of the latter paid Disney. Others paid privateers. As long as Disney allows for queue jumping in exchange for extra money, I don't see why others should not be able to just because they bypass official channels in the process.
They don't allow for it, you anus head! ( :shifty: ) It says so in the fucking rules we've quoted at your blind self for about 2 pages now. :fp:
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Kristie » Wed May 15, 2013 2:58 pm

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klr wrote:Just curious: Why would anyone pay extra (via either mechanism) if there's a free way already available to all? :dono:
A misplaced sense of superiority? :dunno: Who knows.
Because even with the free Fast Passes you can get on most of the popular rides, you still have to come back at a certain time and wait in line. A much shorter line, but you still wait. I've waited half an hour in a Fast Pass line before.

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Hermit » Wed May 15, 2013 3:01 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
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Bella Fortuna wrote:The facts as I understand them:

1) Disney's policy states "Auxiliary entrances are not intended to bypass waiting lines."
Yes, unless patrons pay Disney directly for the privilege.
Or maybe do it the established... and I reemphasize, free... way of avoiding queues that is available to everyone. Thanks for chopping that bit off.
The free way of avoiding the long queue is not available to everyone. It is restricted to groups that include a handicapped person, groups that pay Disney for the privilege and groups that hire a handicapped person for it.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 15, 2013 3:02 pm

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Kristie » Wed May 15, 2013 3:03 pm

Hermit wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:The facts as I understand them:

1) Disney's policy states "Auxiliary entrances are not intended to bypass waiting lines."
Yes, unless patrons pay Disney directly for the privilege.
Or maybe do it the established... and I reemphasize, free... way of avoiding queues that is available to everyone. Thanks for chopping that bit off.
The free way of avoiding the long queue is not available to everyone. It is restricted to groups that include a handicapped person, groups that pay Disney for the privilege and groups that hire a handicapped person for it.
I think she means the free way by getting a Fast Pass ticket at the line entrance. Something available to everyone. You just have to return between certain times.

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Audley Strange » Wed May 15, 2013 3:09 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Some people are just selfish cunts. These are the same people that "borrow" disabled badges so they can park next to the supermarket entrance. That "share" their choice of music with the entire neighbourhood. That keep three or four dogs tied up and barking in the garden all night.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 15, 2013 3:19 pm

Hermit wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
Hermit wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:The facts as I understand them:

1) Disney's policy states "Auxiliary entrances are not intended to bypass waiting lines."
Yes, unless patrons pay Disney directly for the privilege.
Or maybe do it the established... and I reemphasize, free... way of avoiding queues that is available to everyone. Thanks for chopping that bit off.
The free way of avoiding the long queue is not available to everyone. It is restricted to groups that include a handicapped person, groups that pay Disney for the privilege and groups that hire a handicapped person for it.
That is not true. You go to the ride, get a fast pass -- the fast pass tells you when to return. You come back at that designated time, and you can get on the ride fast at that designated time.

What you're referring to -- for $300 an hour -- is NOT - repeat NOT a mere "fast pass." What you're referring to is a GUIDED TOUR of the park, where a person who works for Disney takes you around the park. That is neither the same thing as a fast pass, nor the same thing as hiring a cripple to get you on the ride faster.

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Tyrannical » Wed May 15, 2013 3:23 pm

Kristie wrote: Oh, and I don't remember who said it now and I'm not going to bother going back and checking, but Small World most definitely has lines over 2 hours long sometimes. If you go in the summer on a weekend, every damn ride there is at least an hour wait.
It was me, and I still find it difficult to believe the lines are that long for small world. It a fairly fast loading ride and I'm the only one I know who actually likes it. Of course I only go during the off season.

Now Dumbo is a different story. Though now that they have two, known as dueling dumbos, it may be easier. I did manage to get on that with no wait by waiting until park closing during an open until midnight day.
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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Kristie » Wed May 15, 2013 3:26 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Kristie wrote: Oh, and I don't remember who said it now and I'm not going to bother going back and checking, but Small World most definitely has lines over 2 hours long sometimes. If you go in the summer on a weekend, every damn ride there is at least an hour wait.
It was me, and I still find it difficult to believe the lines are that long for small world. It a fairly fast loading ride and I'm the only one I know who actually likes it. Of course I only go during the off season.

Now Dumbo is a different story. Though now that they have two, known as dueling dumbos, it may be easier. I did manage to get on that with no wait by waiting until park closing during an open until midnight day.
I love Small World. I think the reason the line can sometimes get so long is because the ride itself is long. We typically go in the late Fall/early Winter. There's been times, even then, that my family refuses to wait in the line with me because it's close to an hour long.

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 15, 2013 4:19 pm

I much prefer Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure anyway. Epcot is fun for a low key day. Sea World is cool. I never was a big fan of Disney World.

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Kristie » Wed May 15, 2013 4:31 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:I much prefer Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure anyway. Epcot is fun for a low key day. Sea World is cool. I never was a big fan of Disney World.
We love it and go once a year. I've done Islands of Adventure, but that was before I had kids. I don't even think you can compare Disney with parks like Islands of Adventure. Disney has an atmosphere that's unlike anything anywhere else.

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Re: Black Market Handicapped Guides to Cut Lines at Disney

Post by Svartalf » Wed May 15, 2013 4:39 pm

and crowds to match... which is why I hate the place (both Anaheim and Paris, never been to the FLA one)
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