US Prez Election 2012 Thread - Opinions and Discussions

[Coito ergo sum]

"Who understands the gibberish of the president of the United States before the General Assembly?" F.Castro.

Gee -- with friends like that, who needs enemies...

Castro also took issue with the "fascist methods by the United States and its allies to confuse and manipulate global opinion," and said he was heartened by the "resistance" of his key allies Hugo Chavez and Evo Moralez, presidents of Venezuela and Bolivia, respectively, who criticized US and UN policy in their speeches.

"Has any nation been excluded from the bloody threats of this illustrious defender of international peace and security?" Castro said of Obama, whose UN quotes he cited extensively in his column.

"Who gave the United States such privileges?" Castro said.

He said countries must consider taking a stand at the General Assembly against the "NATO genocide in Libya," an action Castro described as one of many "flagrant violations of principles."

"Does anyone want it to be recorded that under their direction, the government of their nation supported the monstrous crimes by the United States and its NATO allies?" he said.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... f82a01.261

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A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds that Obama earns 39% support while Cain attracts 34%. In that match-up, 14% prefer some other candidate, and 14% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
A month ago, the president led Cain by seven percentage points. In March Obama held an 18 point advantage over the businessman and talk show host.
Data released earlier today shows that voters nationwide are evenly divided as to whether or not Cain is qualified to be president — 30% say yes, 33% no, and 37% are not sure. Republicans, by a 49% to 17% margin believe he is qualified while most Democrats disagree. Among Republicans, Cain’s numbers on this question are similar to Rick Perry’s but not as strong as Mitt Romney’s.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... l_matchups

I don't get why Democrats think he's not qualified. Why? Because he's held a real job?

[Coito ergo sum]

n a new Harris Poll, 2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul beats President Obama 51 percent to 49 percent in a general election race.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ron-Paul- ... l?x=0&.v=1

CHICAGO (WLS) - Former Chicago Bears defensive tackle Dan Hampton says he will not be joining his fellow teammates when they visit the White House next month.
Hampton, a member of the Bears 1985 Super Bowl championship team, made the comments on Chicago's Mully and Hanley radio show Monday.
"It's my personal choice," the four-time Pro Bowler said. "I don't choose to go."
Hampton said he was bothered that the invitation did not include players' wives and children and added, "Secondly, I’m not a fan of the guy in the White House, and third, it was 25 years ago. Let it go.”

http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2297322&spid=

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Majority Don't Want Obama in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Two new Quinnipiac polls provide more evidence the 2012 presidential election may be decided in the Rust Belt.

In Pennsylvania, just 43% approve of President Obama's job performance, while 51% say he doesn't deserve a second term.

In Ohio, just 42% approve of his job performance, while 51% say he doesn't deserve re-election.

That said, Obama still holds narrow leads over Rick Perry and Mitt Romney in head-to-head match-ups in both states.

For more on the two polls, see Poll Watch Daily.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/ ... vania.html

St. Louis (KSDK) -- Additional information about President Obama's visit to St. Louis Tuesday has been released.

Generation 44, a supporter of the Democratic National Committee, said President Obama will be at the Renaissance Grand Hotel at 800 Washington Avenue at 5:00 p.m. October 4th.

The group has a limited number of $1,000 tickets available for $250. Visit Barack Obama's website for additional information.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/278906 ... bama-visit

[JimC]

Obama agrees with whack-job that "Jesus is Lord."

It's bat-shit crazy to call Obama the antichrist, but not at all crazy to worship a guy who has supposedly been dead for 1980 years +/-.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... aiser.html

So much for the doubts about Obama's Christianity, of course. He accepts Jesus as his Lord.

He states that publically, because to otherwise in the US these days would be political suicide. Being a politician, he may well be saying one thing and believing another...

[Tyrannical]

http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/28/ralph ... on-paul-ha

Ralph Nader has a few nice things to say about Ron Paul, suggests a Left / Libertarian alliance.

Nader has also been gathering Democrats to find someone that might challenge Obama in the primaries.

"Look at the latitude," Nader says, referring to the potential for cooperation between libertarians and the left. "Military budget, foreign wars, empire, Patriot Act, corporate welfare—for starters. When you add those all up, that's a foundational convergence. Progressives should do so good."

There are nascent movements underway to bring disaffected progressives into Ron Paul's fold. A new organization called Blue Republican, advertised on the Huffington Post and elsewhere, urges Democrats to pledge their support for Paul. While Nader isn't willing to endorse Paul's candidacy at this point, during our interview his praise grew increasingly effusive. "Ron Paul has always been anti-corporate, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-big banks, anti-bailouts," Nader says. "I mean, they view him in the same way they view me on a lot of these issues. Did you see the latest poll? He's like two points behind Obama."

Weird, Obama loosing his Left base to a Republican?

[eXcommunicate]

Gee -- with friends like that, who needs enemies...

What do you mean by "friends" in this context?

Weird, Obama loosing his Left base to a Republican?

Not gonna happen because Paul won't be in the general unless he leaves the Republican Party. If anything, progressives will register as Republicans so they can vote Paul in the primary. When he's (inevitably) not on the ballot in November they'll go ahead and vote Obama since he'll be up against either Mitt Milquetoast Romney or one of the interchangeable "Tea Party" candidates.

[Tyrannical]

Weird, Obama loosing his Left base to a Republican?

Not gonna happen because Paul won't be in the general unless he leaves the Republican Party. If anything, progressives will register as Republicans so they can vote Paul in the primary. When he's (inevitably) not on the ballot in November they'll go ahead and vote Obama since he'll be up against either Mitt Milquetoast Romney or one of the interchangeable "Tea Party" candidates.

Odder things have happened, and without a Democratic primary there could be a fair amount of cross voters in the Republican primary.

[eXcommunicate]

Weird, Obama loosing his Left base to a Republican?

Not gonna happen because Paul won't be in the general unless he leaves the Republican Party. If anything, progressives will register as Republicans so they can vote Paul in the primary. When he's (inevitably) not on the ballot in November they'll go ahead and vote Obama since he'll be up against either Mitt Milquetoast Romney or one of the interchangeable "Tea Party" candidates.

Odder things have happened, and without a Democratic primary there could be a fair amount of cross voters in the Republican primary.

There undoubtedly will. I personally plan to do exactly as I describe. EDIT: The primaries are where we have real choice.

[Coito ergo sum]

Obama agrees with whack-job that "Jesus is Lord."

It's bat-shit crazy to call Obama the antichrist, but not at all crazy to worship a guy who has supposedly been dead for 1980 years +/-.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... aiser.html

So much for the doubts about Obama's Christianity, of course. He accepts Jesus as his Lord.

He states that publically, because to otherwise in the US these days would be political suicide. Being a politician, he may well be saying one thing and believing another...

Evidence?

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After months of hedging, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is giving serious thought to jumping into the ring for a GOP presidential run -- and could make his decision next week, The Post has learned.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/c ... z1ZLYqHCwZ

I like Chris Christie.

[Ian]

After months of hedging, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is giving serious thought to jumping into the ring for a GOP presidential run -- and could make his decision next week, The Post has learned.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/c ... z1ZLYqHCwZ

I like Chris Christie.

Some interesting analysis on this subject:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

My takeaway is the same as I've said a while back: I think he could be tapped for Veep, or maybe run for the nomination in 2016. It's possible that he may instead soon enter the 2012 race, but I don't think I'd bet money on it.

[Coito ergo sum]

Crony Capitalism: $737 Million Green Jobs Loan Given to Nancy Pelosi's Brother-In-Law

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cro ... 94593.html

[Coito ergo sum]

After months of hedging, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is giving serious thought to jumping into the ring for a GOP presidential run -- and could make his decision next week, The Post has learned.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/c ... z1ZLYqHCwZ

I like Chris Christie.

Some interesting analysis on this subject:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

My takeaway is the same as I've said a while back: I think he could be tapped for Veep, or maybe run for the nomination in 2016. It's possible that he may instead soon enter the 2012 race, but I don't think I'd bet money on it.

Awesome link...I watched the 1978 Yankee/Red Sox game live as a kid. It still sends chills up my spine...

[Ian]

After months of hedging, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is giving serious thought to jumping into the ring for a GOP presidential run -- and could make his decision next week, The Post has learned.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/c ... z1ZLYqHCwZ

I like Chris Christie.

Some interesting analysis on this subject:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

My takeaway is the same as I've said a while back: I think he could be tapped for Veep, or maybe run for the nomination in 2016. It's possible that he may instead soon enter the 2012 race, but I don't think I'd bet money on it.

Awesome link...I watched the 1978 Yankee/Red Sox game live as a kid. It still sends chills up my spine...

Er, I meant this one:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.co ... -calendar/