Venezuela - Example of How Socialism Leads to Dictatorship?

[pErvinalia]

I can spell it out for you. The pictures above have nothing to do with who is a Democrat or not. They are examples of other images - the two of Biden could easily be interpreted to show two women who are really uncomfortable over what Joe Biden is doing. He can be seen as leering old man getting all over two women who seem very keen on it not happening to them, the seem repulsed by him. The top picture appears to show Barack Obama leering at a woman's ass.

The point of posting the photos is to show that the angle of a picture, plus the fact that it takes a 3D world and reduces it to 2D, may make a picture appear to depict something it doesn't exactly depict. We don't have the advantage of seeing the time before and after the instant the photo is snapped to understand the context and the relationship of the people being photographed.

Much of what we see and how we interpret a photo is colored by our expectations. So, whether we see Obama as a lecherous chauvinist objectifying a woman, or as a guy who happened to be turning his head, may well be colored by our preconceived notions about his character. Whether we see Biden as a dirty old man getting overly familiar with women may well depend on what we think of him in advance.

So, bearing that in mind, if you look at the Trump photo, whether you see a woman revolted by Trump, or a woman simply turning her shoulders a bit to face him, sitting properly/formally and smiling at him cordially, depends on what your expectations are. I haven't foreclosed the possibility that she is revolted by him. I merely pointed out that if you look closely at the picture, her posture doesn't exactly show that to be the case in any objective sense.

This is why debating you is pointless. I've said nothing at all about her being definitively repulsed by Trump. ALL I've said is that that particular image gives that appearance. The point I was making was that people without empathy, i.e. conservatives, wouldn't be able to pick up those particular cues in the image. FFS.

[cronus]

Banning lining up leads to riots. The same is true whether it be capitalism or communism. If the banks crashed tomorrow the lack of places to line-up would lead to massive chaotic riots. You heard it here first. Walking on thin ice to blast Venezuela for what is likely coming to a neighbourhood near you, where ever you are.

[Hermit]

I've said nothing at all about her being definitively repulsed by Trump. ALL I've said is that that particular image gives that appearance.

You definitely have not. In none of your posts concerning the photo did you use any qualifying words like appear*, maybe, probab*, possib*, perhaps etc. I found your answer to 42's request to describe what you think is wrong with it. Your answer was: "The look in her face and she is pulling away from him. She is repulsed by him."

[pErvinalia]

Banning lining up leads to riots. The same is true whether it be capitalism or communism. If the banks crashed tomorrow the lack of places to line-up would lead to massive chaotic riots. You heard it here first. Walking on thin ice to blast Venezuela for what is likely coming to a neighbourhood near you, where ever you are.

We here a lot of "firsts" from you. It's not hard to be the first to say something when what one is saying is nonsensical.

[pErvinalia]

I've said nothing at all about her being definitively repulsed by Trump. ALL I've said is that that particular image gives that appearance.

You definitely have not. In none of your posts concerning the photo did you use any qualifying words like appear*, maybe, probab*, possib*, perhaps etc. I found your answer to 42's request to describe what you think is wrong with it. Your answer was: "The look in her face and she is pulling away from him. She is repulsed by him."

"what is wrong with it". Yes, it, the image. The image gives the appearance of her being repulsed. That says nothing at all about whether she is objectively repulsed. FFS, your English skills have been severely degrading over the last few months.

[pErvinalia]

Banning lining up leads to riots. The same is true whether it be capitalism or communism. If the banks crashed tomorrow the lack of places to line-up would lead to massive chaotic riots. You heard it here first. Walking on thin ice to blast Venezuela for what is likely coming to a neighbourhood near you, where ever you are.

We here a lot of "firsts" from you. It's not hard to be the first to say something when what one is saying is nonsensical.

Fucken English skills...

[Hermit]

I've said nothing at all about her being definitively repulsed by Trump. ALL I've said is that that particular image gives that appearance.

You definitely have not. In none of your posts concerning the photo did you use any qualifying words like appear*, maybe, probab*, possib*, perhaps etc. I found your answer to 42's request to describe what you think is wrong with it. Your answer was: "The look in her face and she is pulling away from him. She is repulsed by him."

"what is wrong with it". Yes, it, the image. The image gives the appearance of her being repulsed. That says nothing at all about whether she is objectively repulsed. FFS, your English skills have been severely degrading over the last few months.

Let's do this again: You claimed that "ALL I've said is that that particular image gives that appearance." No, you have not. You said "She is repulsed by him." No word even remotely indicating any qualification like, say, "She appears to be repulsed by him" or "She is probably repulsed by him" were posted by you in the entire thread. But thank you for once again demonstrating your fabled, oft-employed ability to acknowledge that you were obviously and manifestly mistaken.

[pErvinalia]

Oh ffs. I was talking about the image. The image necessarily is an appearance only. I said absolutely zero about anything other than the image.

[Hermit]

Oh ffs. I was talking about the image. The image necessarily is an appearance only. I said absolutely zero about anything other than the image.

It seems to have escaped your attention that we've been discussing the image all along. Much as it displeases me to agree with 42 once again, it is fair comment to say Miss Universe appears to feel repulsion and Trump apears to be leering at her in a lecherous manner. As far as the image is concerned, the body language is indistinguishable from that and them sharing a wisecrack or him appreciating her beauty and her turning to get a better look at him.

It would be nice to imagine thinking that your recent posts make sense because you're still on the Oxies, but they've tended to the nonsensical side since well before your toothache. A couple of years ago I compared you to a yappy, exuberant, playful dachshund that wants to jump on people's laps and be stroked. Since then a more fitting comparison would be a snarling chihuahua that cannot be trained out of constantly sinking its little teeth into the fabric of people's jeans at ankle height.

[pErvinalia]

Fuck off. You are siding with 42 yet again. That should give you more than enough clue as to how far you've fallen in the rationality stakes.

[pErvinalia]

Let's dissect your nonsense and highlight how English is becoming an increasing challenge for you:

Oh ffs. I was talking about the image. The image necessarily is an appearance only. I said absolutely zero about anything other than the image.

It seems to have escaped your attention that we've been discussing the image all along. Much as it displeases me to agree with 42 once again, it is fair comment to say Miss Universe appears to feel repulsion and Trump apears to be leering at her in a lecherous manner.

Apparently you are agreeing with 42 when you mention that "it is fair comment to say Miss Universe appears to feel repulsion and Trump apears [sic] to be leering at her in a lecherous manner". Problem is, dipshit, that you are agreeing with me there, not 42. I'm the one who said the image shows repulsion.

As far as the image is concerned,

You were just talking about the image. Did that point escape your attention in the nanosecond it took you to finish that sentence and start this one??

the body language is indistinguishable from that and them sharing a wisecrack or him appreciating her beauty and her turning to get a better look at him.

So how is it possible to both agree that the image appears to show her repulsion, and that it is indistinguishable from them sharing a wisecrack etc?!? What sort of busted up logic is that?

It would be nice to imagine thinking that your recent posts make sense because you're still on the Oxies, but they've tended to the nonsensical side since well before your toothache.

Says the guy who earlier in the thread was going on about morality in rebutting my point, despite me saying absolutely nothing about morality. Not to mention your retarded analysis of my comment to 42 in another thread regarding my shocking revelation that I don't read all of his posts. Physician, heal thyself!

A couple of years ago I compared you to a yappy, exuberant, playful dachshund that wants to jump on people's laps and be stroked. Since then a more fitting comparison would be a snarling chihuahua that cannot be trained out of constantly sinking its little teeth into the fabric of people's jeans at ankle height.

Says that guy who is pathologically driven to nitpick.

[Hermit]

Fuck off. You are siding with 42 yet again. That should give you more than enough clue as to how far you've fallen in the rationality stakes.

There is a certain irony in your assertion that a clue to how far someone has fallen in the rationality stakes lies more in which person you side with rather which argument.

Are yo sure you're not currently under the influence of some opioid? That would be nice because if so, there's still some hope for you. If not, you're likely to remain the snarling chihuahua you've increasingly turned into over the past couple of years, that cannot be trained out of constantly sinking its little teeth into the fabric of people's jeans at ankle height.

[pErvinalia]

I'm fine, as my post above yours there shows. YOU are the one who is displaying repeated confusion. Sort your own shit out before worrying about others.

[Hermit]

Let's dissect your nonsense and highlight how English is becoming an increasing challenge for you:

[pErvinalia]

Lame. Can't even admit that you posted an illogical pile of dross. Sort your own shit out.