Do Women Deserve The Vote?

[Audley Strange]

Despite the silliness of the OP, I think even ignoring your catastrophe fantasies. you ask an interesting question in the above post, which I take as do we have a political caste who are not fit for purpose because they are a caste?

"the world is full of unmarried marriage counselors" as Charles M Schultz put it.

[klr]

Despite the silliness of the OP, I think even ignoring your catastrophe fantasies. you ask an interesting question in the above post, which I take as do we have a political caste who are not fit for purpose because they are a caste?

"the world is full of unmarried marriage counselors" as Charles M Schultz put it.

... in some places, they happen to be priests.

[Audley Strange]

Despite the silliness of the OP, I think even ignoring your catastrophe fantasies. you ask an interesting question in the above post, which I take as do we have a political caste who are not fit for purpose because they are a caste?

"the world is full of unmarried marriage counselors" as Charles M Schultz put it.

... in some places, they happen to be priests.

Well if I'm honest, it seems to me in most places and spheres they're priests of one fucking stripe or another.

[cronus]

Despite the silliness of the OP, I think even ignoring your catastrophe fantasies. you ask an interesting question in the above post, which I take as do we have a political caste who are not fit for purpose because they are a caste?

"the world is full of unmarried marriage counselors" as Charles M Schultz put it.

Every once in a while the cards are thrown skyward. Fifty two card pick-up is a great game.

[Audley Strange]

Ah yes, the skittershat approach.

[cronus]

Ah yes, the skittershat approach.

Inevitable given the social forces involved in what is likely coming.

[Cormac]

I'm not saying there isn't risk in transitioning to a benevolent dictatorship what I am saying is there is inevitable change afoot. It can go many ways but democracy is not one of the viable options given the scope and complexity of issues now in the human domain. Democracy today becomes mob rule becomes anarchy becomes petty tribalism and die off. It is a retrograde force now.

There is no such thing as a "benevolent dictatorship".

Try making me dictator, you might see one... and there was the tyranny of Peisistratos in Ancient Athens.

But that is beside the point - even democratic Athens was nothing like what we'd recognise as a good society.

All dictatorships involve oppression.

Last time a Frenchman was a dictator, Europe had awful trouble...

[klr]

I'm not saying there isn't risk in transitioning to a benevolent dictatorship what I am saying is there is inevitable change afoot. It can go many ways but democracy is not one of the viable options given the scope and complexity of issues now in the human domain. Democracy today becomes mob rule becomes anarchy becomes petty tribalism and die off. It is a retrograde force now.

There is no such thing as a "benevolent dictatorship".

Try making me dictator, you might see one... and there was the tyranny of Peisistratos in Ancient Athens.

But that is beside the point - even democratic Athens was nothing like what we'd recognise as a good society.

All dictatorships involve oppression.

Last time a Frenchman was a dictator, Europe had awful trouble...

Right now you mean - Platini is clueless.

[pErvinalia]

If we need to start digging up bodies there are enough to go around. I fully realize we need armed resistance from malicious tyranny but that does not mean democracy is a workable solution to the coming 'Seldon Crisis' here, there or anywhere.

Indeed. Many many more on your side than "mine".

Democracy is indeed flawed, but Churchill's comment still applies.

Incidentally, technocrats are every bit as prone to error, and exposed to the reality of probability as are democrats.

Furthermore, being imbued with far greater power exposes them to even greater corrupting influences.

This is the very reason that Plato's republic was a moronic notion, in the end. (Apart from the fact that it was fascistic from nave to chops).

There is no such thing as a non-malicious tyranny, and this is why your technocratic government should never be allowed to see light of day.

I wonder if we could have science as a fourth arm of government. They could veto egregious anti-science shit, and also formulate science backed policy.

[pErvinalia]

I'm not saying there isn't risk in transitioning to a benevolent dictatorship what I am saying is there is inevitable change afoot. It can go many ways but democracy is not one of the viable options given the scope and complexity of issues now in the human domain. Democracy today becomes mob rule becomes anarchy becomes petty tribalism and die off. It is a retrograde force now.

I know it's not popular to agree with your pessimism around here, but I think you are pretty much spot on. I've really got to wonder what hole most people have their heads stuck in not to see this.

[Cormac]

I'm not saying there isn't risk in transitioning to a benevolent dictatorship what I am saying is there is inevitable change afoot. It can go many ways but democracy is not one of the viable options given the scope and complexity of issues now in the human domain. Democracy today becomes mob rule becomes anarchy becomes petty tribalism and die off. It is a retrograde force now.

There is no such thing as a "benevolent dictatorship".

Try making me dictator, you might see one... and there was the tyranny of Peisistratos in Ancient Athens.

But that is beside the point - even democratic Athens was nothing like what we'd recognise as a good society.

All dictatorships involve oppression.

Last time a Frenchman was a dictator, Europe had awful trouble...

Right now you mean - Platini is clueless.

[That Alien Guy.]

Considering the number of other species on Earth who have greater domestic intelligence than any of your packs, I think none of you should have the vote and you should hand power over to the Insects and make your way slowly back into the oceans.

Or have a big fight! Go out with a boom not a whimper. At least you know you dying screaming will make good T.V. for the Galactic community. Fame! It's what you always wanted!