'This has nothing to do with Islam'

[Hermit]

...and Islam is vile, same as Christianity.

Exactly. The difference between the Koran and the Bible in terms of their respective violence/peacefulness quotient is negligible. An illusion of their difference is created by what proportion of each religions' adherents cherrypick from each of their contradictory aspects at any point in time.

[JimC]

...and Islam is vile, same as Christianity.

Exactly. The difference between the Koran and the Bible in terms of their respective violence/peacefulness quotient is negligible. An illusion of their difference is created by what proportion of each religions' adherents cherrypick from each of their contradictory aspects at any point in time.

As I've said earlier, I disagree on objective grounds, given that contemporary, mainstream christianity largely ignores the old testament, source of much of the inferred violence...

Anyway, it's actions that are are vile. In the present time, actions in the name of Islam are comprehensively more violent than any actions in the name of christianity...

[Hermit]

...and Islam is vile, same as Christianity.

Exactly. The difference between the Koran and the Bible in terms of their respective violence/peacefulness quotient is negligible. An illusion of their difference is created by what proportion of each religions' adherents cherrypick from each of their contradictory aspects at any point in time.

As I've said earlier, I disagree on objective grounds, given that contemporary, mainstream christianity largely ignores the old testament, source of much of the inferred violence...

Uhm...

[Svartalf]

...and Islam is vile, same as Christianity.

Exactly. The difference between the Koran and the Bible in terms of their respective violence/peacefulness quotient is negligible. An illusion of their difference is created by what proportion of each religions' adherents cherrypick from each of their contradictory aspects at any point in time.

As I've said earlier, I disagree on objective grounds, given that contemporary, mainstream christianity largely ignores the old testament, source of much of the inferred violence...

Anyway, it's actions that are are vile. In the present time, actions in the name of Islam are comprehensively more violent than any actions in the name of christianity...

Not all chretinity goes "new covenant, the old laws are moot", though the Catholics definitely do so, and the more OT protestants do engage is frenzied cherry picking.

[JimC]

...and Islam is vile, same as Christianity.

Exactly. The difference between the Koran and the Bible in terms of their respective violence/peacefulness quotient is negligible. An illusion of their difference is created by what proportion of each religions' adherents cherrypick from each of their contradictory aspects at any point in time.

As I've said earlier, I disagree on objective grounds, given that contemporary, mainstream christianity largely ignores the old testament, source of much of the inferred violence...

Uhm...

Yes, but all I care about is the practical effect at the moment, not an infinite regression of ethical philosophising...

Right now, the islamic mind-set contains many more violent aspects than any other religion.

That combines with some poor choices by western military mind-sets, I quite agree. Our poor choices (ie drone warfare) are part of the problem.

But the result is clear, and real. Islam in the here and now encourages horrendous violence, in a way that no other current religions do...

[Hermit]

...and Islam is vile, same as Christianity.

Exactly. The difference between the Koran and the Bible in terms of their respective violence/peacefulness quotient is negligible. An illusion of their difference is created by what proportion of each religions' adherents cherrypick from each of their contradictory aspects at any point in time.

As I've said earlier, I disagree on objective grounds, given that contemporary, mainstream christianity largely ignores the old testament, source of much of the inferred violence...

Uhm...

Yes, but all I care about is the practical effect at the moment, not an infinite regression of ethical philosophising...

Right now, the islamic mind-set contains many more violent aspects than any other religion.

That combines with some poor choices by western military mind-sets, I quite agree. Our poor choices (ie drone warfare) are part of the problem.

But the result is clear, and real. Islam in the here and now encourages horrendous violence, in a way that no other current religions do...

You did opine, though, that

Islam, of all current major religions, is the one whose religious writings and historical actions resonate the strongest with acts of violence against unbelievers...

I merely opined that there is no discernible difference in respect to condonements of and exhortations to acts of violence between the respective holy books that Muslims and Christians cherrypick from.

[Warren Dew]

...and Islam is vile, same as Christianity.

Exactly. The difference between the Koran and the Bible in terms of their respective violence/peacefulness quotient is negligible. An illusion of their difference is created by what proportion of each religions' adherents cherrypick from each of their contradictory aspects at any point in time.

As I've said earlier, I disagree on objective grounds, given that contemporary, mainstream christianity largely ignores the old testament, source of much of the inferred violence...

Indeed. Based on analysis of the holy texts, one would expect constant conflict between any Jewish and Muslim states that might exist. I wonder what the empirical data says about that theory.

[Jason]

I suppose it has more or less the same relationship with Islam as the Crusades did with Christianity.

Rationalisation to the effect that the crusades ended several centuries ago in 9 ... 8 ... 7 ... 6 ...

All religions can have a twisted, violent side. Christianity certainly did, and in spots still does, but less so now than in the past.

This is not a rationalisation. Nor is it to be credited to Christianity deciding to moderate itself. Its power and ambitions were slowly cut down over the centuries, by courageous men and women, particularly during the enlightenment.

The relatively toothless tiger of today still has wistful dreams of its predatory past, I suspect...

However, Islam is different. Its sacred writings resonate with violence, against the apposite and the infidel. Moderate muslims may cavil, but its foundation contains many more literal exhortations to violence than most religions...

There are two kinds of Muslim my friend: 'bad' extremists and 'good' extremists.