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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:02 pm

Twoflower wrote:If anyone would like to help out my cousin's boss with medical expenses they can donate here https://www.wepay.com/donations/richard-family-fund Not only was their son killed, but both his wife and daughter were seriously injured.
Twofy, he should also talk to the hospital about some kind of accommodation. It would be good PR for them to write off the expenses of the injured ladies.
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Post by Wumbologist » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:10 pm

Looks like we do have trucks there after all. A couple of ALS trucks and several BLS units. I'm pretty close to the city, there's a chance I might end up being called in to the staging area.

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Post by Twoflower » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:11 pm

I'm sure the hospitals around here will do something to help the victims.

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Post by mistermack » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:12 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Twoflower wrote:If anyone would like to help out my cousin's boss with medical expenses they can donate here https://www.wepay.com/donations/richard-family-fund Not only was their son killed, but both his wife and daughter were seriously injured.
Twofy, he should also talk to the hospital about some kind of accommodation. It would be good PR for them to write off the expenses of the injured ladies.
The guy has absolutely nothing to worry about. The USA has the best health system in the world, and the British system is shit. I was reliably informed of this by an asshole.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Wumbologist » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:18 pm

Blackhawk helicopter just landed at the Arsenal Mall in Watertown.

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Post by cronus » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:24 pm

Wumbologist wrote:Blackhawk helicopter just landed at the Arsenal Mall in Watertown.
IR monitoring for later?
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Wumbologist » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:27 pm

Scrumple wrote:
Wumbologist wrote:Blackhawk helicopter just landed at the Arsenal Mall in Watertown.
IR monitoring for later?
Apparently a handful of them, landing and taking off again at the staging area.

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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by mistermack » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:44 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote: The hostage was dropped off when the suspects stopped to get gas.
That just illustrates what's wrong with guns.

They didn't feel like harming someone, who was face to face with them, but they were happy to maim and kill lots of people from a distance.
That's what guns and bombs do.
They make killing easy, and impersonal. And that's why guns need to be banned, just like bombs.
You know the victim that got both legs blown off? One of the terrorists was face to face with that victim, and it made no difference - he put the backpack containing the bomb at the victim's feet anyway.

The reason the carjacking victim didn't get killed was because the terrorists were then focusing on getting away, rather than making a big news splash as had been their objective on monday.
I'm not sure of the logic of that.
He placed a rucksack, and walked away, then detonated the bomb by phone. (probably).
How easy and impersonal is that? Compared to stabbing someone, and seeing the blood, or hitting someone over the head.

Placing a rucksack and pressing dial on a phone is very similar to squeezing a trigger. Easy, remote and impersonal.
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Post by Thinking Aloud » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:27 pm

mistermack wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote: The hostage was dropped off when the suspects stopped to get gas.
That just illustrates what's wrong with guns.

They didn't feel like harming someone, who was face to face with them, but they were happy to maim and kill lots of people from a distance.
That's what guns and bombs do.
They make killing easy, and impersonal. And that's why guns need to be banned, just like bombs.
You know the victim that got both legs blown off? One of the terrorists was face to face with that victim, and it made no difference - he put the backpack containing the bomb at the victim's feet anyway.

The reason the carjacking victim didn't get killed was because the terrorists were then focusing on getting away, rather than making a big news splash as had been their objective on monday.
I'm not sure of the logic of that.
He placed a rucksack, and walked away, then detonated the bomb by phone. (probably).
How easy and impersonal is that? Compared to stabbing someone, and seeing the blood, or hitting someone over the head.

Placing a rucksack and pressing dial on a phone is very similar to squeezing a trigger. Easy, remote and impersonal.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Cormac » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:32 pm

mistermack wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
mistermack wrote: The hostage was dropped off when the suspects stopped to get gas.
That just illustrates what's wrong with guns.

They didn't feel like harming someone, who was face to face with them, but they were happy to maim and kill lots of people from a distance.
That's what guns and bombs do.
They make killing easy, and impersonal. And that's why guns need to be banned, just like bombs.
You know the victim that got both legs blown off? One of the terrorists was face to face with that victim, and it made no difference - he put the backpack containing the bomb at the victim's feet anyway.

The reason the carjacking victim didn't get killed was because the terrorists were then focusing on getting away, rather than making a big news splash as had been their objective on monday.
I'm not sure of the logic of that.
He placed a rucksack, and walked away, then detonated the bomb by phone. (probably).
How easy and impersonal is that? Compared to stabbing someone, and seeing the blood, or hitting someone over the head.

Placing a rucksack and pressing dial on a phone is very similar to squeezing a trigger. Easy, remote and impersonal.

Not that remote, at least one was photographed walking away from the explosion with the crowds. They stayed to see the mayhem.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by mistermack » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:52 pm

Cormac wrote: Not that remote, at least one was photographed walking away from the explosion with the crowds. They stayed to see the mayhem.
So? I'm just comparing what it takes to kill, with guns, bombs or knives and blunt weapons etc.

Guns are like bombs, they make it much easier, both mentally and physically, than knives and blunt weapons. Ban em.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Cormac » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:41 pm

mistermack wrote:
Cormac wrote: Not that remote, at least one was photographed walking away from the explosion with the crowds. They stayed to see the mayhem.
So? I'm just comparing what it takes to kill, with guns, bombs or knives and blunt weapons etc.

Guns are like bombs, they make it much easier, both mentally and physically, than knives and blunt weapons. Ban em.

You claimed that this bombing was easy, remote, and impersonal.

It may have been easy, for these guys, but it was no more remote and impersonal than sliding a knife into someone's abdomen. They put the bomb at the feet of children, intending to kill them, and then they stayed to watch the explosion, up close and personal.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by cronus » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:50 pm

Cormac wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Cormac wrote: Not that remote, at least one was photographed walking away from the explosion with the crowds. They stayed to see the mayhem.
So? I'm just comparing what it takes to kill, with guns, bombs or knives and blunt weapons etc.

Guns are like bombs, they make it much easier, both mentally and physically, than knives and blunt weapons. Ban em.

You claimed that this bombing was easy, remote, and impersonal.

It may have been easy, for these guys, but it was no more remote and impersonal than sliding a knife into someone's abdomen. They put the bomb at the feet of children, intending to kill them, and then they stayed to watch the explosion, up close and personal.
On that Russian facebook there was a some pro-islamic violent YT propaganda...they'd obviously been de-sensitized. The question is who was their handler(s)? and are there more sleeper cells within the US even now planning the next atrocity?
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Post by John_fi_Skye » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:58 pm

Fuckin nutcases. May they be phased out sooner rather than later as negative contributors to the global gene pool.
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Post by sandinista » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:43 pm

so...what happened to the naked man arrested last night. Saw it live on the "news" last night and not a mention today. wtf?
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