Tottenham Riots

[Exi5tentialist]

(state sponsored scroungers - unfit for the private sector)

The Bank Bailout added £1.5 trillion to the national debt. By that measure the private sector are the biggest scroungers in history. it's typical though. They brag about their wonderful free market then as soon as things go wrong, it's the public sector to the rescue. Makes me sick.

[Tyrannical]

I want things to return to a time when if you saw a young yob throwing a used sandwich package onto the ground you could say 'Pick that up NOW' and he would be frightened enough to do it instead of stabbing you.

I thought the Council had a Dept that would hug them, send 'em to Alton Towers and then explain how they were the Victim (of Society / rich people (anyone with a job) / the Tooth Fairy etc etc). and then they would get free sandwichs............which explains why no money to empty the bins regularly.

Taking potshots from a position of ignorance is one of the easier skills to acquire in life.

In any case I no longer work for the council or anyone else and have no desire to defend the fuckers who made me redundant. Pot shot away, however ignorantly.

No need to be bitter - you spent your working life creating the very problems you are now moaning about, the irony

You may recall that over the last 30 odd years that many people predicted the (inevitable) outcome (breakdown of Society) - those were the people your kind (state sponsored scroungers - unfit for the private sector) labelled racists and nutters or Neo Nazis etc etc, but still took there money (principles only go so far, eh?). Still, now it's your turn to have fun walking down the street hoping that your former valued "clients" remain grateful.......and if not, you get to pay the price to empower them - but this tine using your own money (well, the money you looted from the State).

Now, now. I'm sure his life long adherence to socialism has made the World a better place. I'm sure he'll get a friendly smile from his former clients, while they are lifting his wallet.
But it is the sign of a strong person to admit that they were wrong, especially when they dedicated their life to creating the problem in the beginning

[Exi5tentialist]

creating the problem in the beginning

When Santa_Claus underlined the word 'creating' I really thought it was a link to a rational argument supporting it. But it turns out to be vacuous. Now everybody is repeating the same prejudice, while ignoring the facts and reasoned argument. Typical Rationalia.

[Tyrannical]

creating the problem in the beginning

When Santa_Claus underlined the word 'creating' I really thought it was a link to a rational argument supporting it. But it turns out to be vacuous. Now everybody is repeating the same prejudice, while ignoring the facts and reasoned argument. Typical Rationalia.

I had no idea you were so lacking in background knowledge about this subject. Perhaps it would just be easiest if I asked Seth to send you some reading material on why socialism creates the problems it tries to solves?

[Santa_Claus]

(state sponsored scroungers - unfit for the private sector)

The Bank Bailout added £1.5 trillion to the national debt. By that measure the private sector are the biggest scroungers in history. it's typical though. They brag about their wonderful free market then as soon as things go wrong, it's the public sector to the rescue. Makes me sick.

The State could have let the Banks go pop (and I have no problem with that) - downside is that money (and debt) would have become irrelevent and that by now we would all be killing our neighbours over the few remaining tins of baked beans (well, those who survived the earlier War for Pizza ). Would have been interesting to see how generous the darkies would be with the tin rattling for old whitey........

In any event, might take a decade (or 3) but the State will get the money back from the finance sector (Loans repaid / taxes levied / guarntees withdrawn) - try that one with the State Scrounging Sector .............Can't close the Banks down at the moment as otherwise we would overnight become Greece (it's touch & go whether we will anyway in the next couple of years).......as the Chinese curse says "May you live in the interesting times" - lets just hope they don't say "we want our money back" or (more likely) simply stop lending..........

[Exi5tentialist]

No can't let the banks go under. They need public sector money. That's why the state can't afford public sector workers. That's why this system is fucked, not 'state scroungers'.

And...

darkies

are you serious?

[Tyrannical]

old whitey

are you serious?

[Rum]

[Santa_Claus]

No can't let the banks go under. They need public sector money. That's why the state can't afford public sector workers. That's why this system is fucked, not 'state scroungers'.

LoL are you Gordon Brown? If not, the Labour party need your economic / financial expertise

And...

darkies

are you serious?

Time was when you could bag a feral one with shotgun and no one (who mattered) would bat an eye lid - nowadays it's all PC gone mad

[Atheist-Lite]

All looking good. I think the alien invasion is on track. Human apes are well distracted.

http://www.b3tards.com/v/037e58b9e054b3 ... indows.jpg

[Atheist-Lite]

[quote="Rum"]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG4jhlPL ... dded#at=88[/youtube]

If only human beings were logical and rational. Economists are well puzzled.

http://freedomkeys.com/window.htm

[PsychoSerenity]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG4jhlPL ... dded#at=88[/youtube]

That's bollocks - well the first part is right, obviously - but the last bit where it equates public construction etc. to repairing the smashed window is nonsense - you could just as easily say people ought not to spend money on personal gadgets because the money would be better spent by the government on public projects. The public projects would properly equate to repairing a window that was accidentally smashed in normal use, and the decision whether it's good for society to do that or not is completely unrelated to any prior decision to smash it.

[Robert_S]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG4jhlPL ... dded#at=88[/youtube]

That's bollocks - well the first part is right, obviously - but the last bit where it equates public construction etc. to repairing the smashed window is nonsense - you could just as easily say people ought not to spend money on personal gadgets because the money would be better spent by the government on public projects. The public projects would properly equate to repairing a window that was accidentally smashed in normal use, and the decision whether it's good for society to do that or not is completely unrelated to any prior decision to smash it.

true. Spend some money on roads and you'll make commerce easier. spend some on parks and public areas and you'll attract people to live in your town, spend some on preserving historical buildings and you'll have a tourist industry.

What the video blurs is the line between recovering what was broken and creating some new asset.

[Warren Dew]

true. Spend some money on roads and you'll make commerce easier. spend some on parks and public areas and you'll attract people to live in your town, spend some on preserving historical buildings and you'll have a tourist industry.

That's only partly true. Money spent on needed roads and maintenance is productive, sure. Money spent to tear up and replace perfectly good roads with something no better - as has happened with some "stimulus" money in our area - is in fact wasted, just like breaking a window and replacing it.

[PsychoSerenity]

true. Spend some money on roads and you'll make commerce easier. spend some on parks and public areas and you'll attract people to live in your town, spend some on preserving historical buildings and you'll have a tourist industry.

That's only partly true. Money spent on needed roads and maintenance is productive, sure. Money spent to tear up and replace perfectly good roads with something no better - as has happened with some "stimulus" money in our area - is in fact wasted, just like breaking a window and replacing it.

Well yes you are right assuming that's true - but are you sure? It may be that what they're doing isn't a very efficient use of the money or a particularly noticeable improvement (slight improvements in road surface can make quite a bit of difference in fuel efficiency, speed, safety etc. - which is why they spend so much on race tracks) but I doubt they're intentionally replacing perfectly good roads with something no better, just to make jobs - and if they are, well then you should definitely call them up on it.