Connecticut (et al)

[FBM]

I wondered if anyone else would notice.

[Hermit]

I think much of what this guy says applies well whether you're arguing for or against guns.

I struggled through to 7'30" even though this had my alarm bells ringing louder before the three minute mark: "...you're not defending the tool, you're defending the principle ... you're defending liberty, you're defending freedom. ... Do not let your own personal political opinion come into the argument." WTF? That principle is devoid of one's own personal political opinion?

Perhaps I should have heeded the initial alarm bell that rang quietly when I read "Do's" in the video's title, but that would have been a bit prejudiced, wouldn't it?

[Wumbologist]

Off duty cop with CCW stops potential killing spree in its tracks, only local media reports: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... z2GOP72zBX

Wonder why major media doesn't pick up stories like that.....

[Svartalf]

Pretty much. A civilian militia is a bad joke.

We need to make a distinction between a civilian militia, and a properly organised Army Reserve, where there is regular yearly training, and it is controlled by the regular army.

The Swiss seem to disagree with Pord.

[Svartalf]

And how do you come to equate "liberty" with "semi-automatics with high capacity magazines, howitzers, tanks, M2 machine guns, and whatever else you and your friends have"?

Because they have a delusion that they could use such military supplies stop the big, bad government from being mean to them...

I'd still like to see wargames between an regular infantry regiment or division and their equivalent numbers to numbers and a half of survivalist militias.

[FBM]

Off duty cop with CCW stops potential killing spree in its tracks, only local media reports: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... z2GOP72zBX

Wonder why major media doesn't pick up stories like that.....

Yeah. Wonder why...

[Svartalf]

Perhaps a majority of the population will eventually equate "liberty" with "freedom from crazy people with all that military hardware".

That include the whole military chain of command up to the congress and president?

[FBM]

The National Guard is a regulated civilian militia. Not sure how "well" it's regulated, but...

[orpheus]

And how do you come to equate "liberty" with "semi-automatics with high capacity magazines, howitzers, tanks, M2 machine guns, and whatever else you and your friends have"?

Because it is our right to keep and bear them, and therefore we are at liberty to do so. That's an essential aspect of liberty because it is those arms that guarantee all of the other rights that Congress is prohibited from infringing upon by the Constitution.

My possession of arms is a danger to no one but criminals, traitors and enemies of the Republic and the Constitution, so there is no reason to bar me from having them unless you are a criminal, traitor or enemy of the Republic and the Constitution. Indeed, in my view, attempting to infringe upon my right to keep and bear arms makes you a criminal, a traitor (if you're a citizen) and an enemy of the Republic and the Constitution because the only possible reason that someone would have to do so is to weaken me and our Republic and make us all vulnerable to criminals, traitors and enemies of the Republic and the Constitution.

(Bold mine)

Seth, you do realize that you've actually just issued a threat to me and others of like mind? (e.g., those of us who are trying - within our legal right - to change the laws)

[Jason]

I said as much already.

[Jason]

Off duty cop with CCW stops potential killing spree in its tracks, only local media reports: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... z2GOP72zBX

Wonder why major media doesn't pick up stories like that.....

It's your media. I guess these stories don't sell well to the majority of the public? Maybe the majority of the public doesn't like CCW regardless of these rare occurrences for which you cannot provide statistics. Dunno. But the important point in this instance I bolded, then underlined just one word so even a gun-nutter could see it.

[Jason]

Pretty much. A civilian militia is a bad joke.

We need to make a distinction between a civilian militia, and a properly organised Army Reserve, where there is regular yearly training, and it is controlled by the regular army.

The Swiss seem to disagree with Pord.

The Swiss have an army?

[Jason]

Perhaps a majority of the population will eventually equate "liberty" with "freedom from crazy people with all that military hardware".

That include the whole military chain of command up to the congress and president?

Perhaps if you try writing in French..

[orpheus]

I said as much already.

Sorry! It's hard to keep up with this thread...

[Jason]

It's cool. I'm grumpier than usual this morning.