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[Magicziggy]

Unvote
Vote MZ

Glad I got back in time.

Like to share some thoughts?
You don't really give us much to go on.

[Rob]

Mmm, Betting make my vote soon.

Just thinking as I go along. Ani is uncontested as Seer, Feck looks clean to me, oblivion is either clean or will be revealed tonight(i imagine ani will view her).

I don't think any scum is bold enough to vote the way Feck did thus he seems clean to me(obvious thought of perhaps he wanted to appear that way but this is my judgement call). I would like Durro's explanation for his vote.

Denny's first post doesn't appear scummy.

Zigmen has remained set on me and then abruptly switched to Feck based on Feck's claim of being night blocked. FOS.

The interplay between Feck and Zigmen has me raising an eyebrow.

Mononoke's posts seems rather fluffy imo, not much substance. Claims to be suspicious of MZxOB interaction. Mono added a bit more, I don't get why Mono voted MZ...

If you are not scum, then I have no fucking idea who is.

Oblivion voted MZ with no reason provided. Why did you vote MZ?



Summing up my ramblings as I went through the thread, Durro's vote on Feck and something about oblivion sort of sets of a bell in my head. Of course MZ also sets off a bell in my head.'

Why the MZ vote, Morticia?

[Rob]

I would say that Mono and Morticia ring a bell for unsubstantiated votes.

[Morticia]

I said before that MZ was suspicious for creating complete confusion for the last two days. MZ was my second suspect to Ani. I'm not risking killing a special so I only have one choice (MZ) atm.

[Morticia]

In case this was missed. My post from this morning,

Ok then I have about 5 hours until nightfall which would be about 6pm my time. I will try to get back to the board before then. Anyway I believe this was also pointed out by Oblivion, but MZ's tactics are not pro-town. FOS MZ. I have never figured MZ's game out and almost always see scummy behavior.

[Morticia]

How long till nightfall now? I was planning on making dinner, should I wait?

[Magicziggy]

I said before that MZ was suspicious for creating complete confusion for the last two days. MZ was my second suspect to Ani. I'm not risking killing a special so I only have one choice (MZ) atm.

Cool, thanks for clearing that up at least.

50 mins till nightfall.

[Animavore]

Right. I've managed to tear myself away from that game.

[Zigmen]

Checking in. No counterclaims to Ani? I'll stick with feck. Still on SR because of the "mafia lessons" and not so much the unvote. Also think MZ is suspicious.

Durro and Mort, who knows?

[charlou]

Mort, you're not coming across as genuine to me. Need more from you to get a better idea of where you're coming from.

Will durro be back before nightfall? I thought he said he would be out the rest of the game day. right or wrong, I have a non-affinity wrt to bandwagoning someone who I know won't be back to defend himself.

So don't

Mine is a pressure vote .. He's either playing or he's too busy. Tossing out an easy vote is not pro-town ... which side is he on?


Other than that, the oh-so-cool players have my attention: Zigmen, Denny and DP. Not suggesting all three .. but would not be surprised if there's scum among them.

[Zigmen]

I'm back to work.

[Rob]

Ugh, I don't know who to vote for, I reread day 1... the interchange between MZ and Oblivion seems awkward. I want to say major FOS if MZ flips town(on oblivion). I'm personally not convinced about MZ. Durro's vote makes me more suspicious as I think Feck is clear so I'm voting Durro:

Vote DUrro

My list sort of goes:

MZ/Oblivion ( I think one of them is scum due to interplay)
Zigmen for the abrupt change from me after being so certain. Plus FOS for voting Feck.
Mono for not providing a clear reason

[oblivion]

@Oblivion. Have you ever been lynched at Ratz? If so, could you say which game it was. I'll find it myself if you tell me which game.
Otherwise, is there a game at TR where Ravenscape was lynched.
Your supposed leaning on me yesterday inlcuded the implication that because you couldn't tell if I was town my play was not useful for town, that I would be useless for town in any endgame and that YOU would personally kill me if YOU were the vig in any future game, town or scum.

Personally, I think you're unlynchable here. You jargon your way to a pivotal position.

I agree about Durro. His post did ping for me.

@Feck, that's a long list!

You were roleblocked last night. How does that make you town?
Apart from you telling us and apart from the assertion that you are not good at playing town. That's crap by the way. You are a good player on both sides. But everyone slips up now and then.

I've never been lynched at ratz. I've been town every game since the Spooks game. The game at ratz has changed a lot since then. I'm not looking forward to drawing a scum role one of these days.

I try not to think about the times I've been lynched a TR. I was lynched 2 games in a row recently, when I drew indie SK roles. If I'm a town-compatible indie, I can play the role pretty well by thinking of myself as a town player who has to survive, because I play that way as town anyway. I have this rather uppity idea that town does better the longer I'm around, evidence sometimes to the contrary.

I didn't say I'd kill you no matter what if I were vig. I said you'd be high on my list. What that means is that if 1) I didn't have a good idea of at least one scum player and 2) there weren't a player in the game that I thought would be more of a liability to town -- then I"d strongly consider NKing you.

You have gotten some fairly easy rides recently as scum, and you don't go out of your way to be a strong town player when you're town, so people discount you and let you slide. But, overtime, people notice that and they eventually start pressuring you to make your town game better.

And here we are.

[charlou]

But, overtime, people notice that and they eventually start pressuring you to make your town game better.

And here we are.

Indeed.

[oblivion]

Oblivion voted MZ with no reason provided. Why did you vote MZ?

For all of the reasons I had my vote on him most of yesterday: His cheap vote on DP right out of the chute, and his ongoing overreaction to my placing a vote on him yesterday.