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Post by Seth » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:39 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
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The NPS doesn't need to close or "guard" anything. They can stay home. .

Yes they do. No they can't.
Yes they can. They are non-essential.
I'm thinking if the border was closed because it was non-essential,those god damn border guards would start keeping people out. Or be replaced with park rangers. :{D
Good point! And it would be funny if it weren't completely true.

Did you know that the Colorado Division of Wildlife once spent more than a million and a half dollars tracking down a guy who poached a couple of deer and elk while homicide investigations went begging?
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Post by Seth » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:42 pm

Tero wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-america ... 10441.html

here it is, the AnnCoulter spin on things. The bitch has been quiet lately.

Note: column contains no facts.
Actually it's almost all facts. The only piece of questionable hyperbole is this statement:
-- No doctors who went to an American medical school will be accepting Obamacare.
Everything else is absolutely true and factual.
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Post by Seth » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:44 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:...obamacare-website-looks-like-nobody-tested-it-programmer-says/[/url]
Incompetents. :fp:
It's called Pelosi programming, "We have to deploy the system so we can find out what's in the system."
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Post by Tero » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:56 pm

Seth, no person had seen a doctor or filed a claim till Jan 1 so it is all speculation.

What's more she is hinting it is affecting costs thru empoer insurance. Mine is not. My employer pays all, the insurance company we use only does paperwork. Sure the cost went up, but it would anyway. No clinic offers budget care.

Plus, if you pulled the plug on all the Terry Chiavos in nursing homes, we could save a bundle. Gasp! Says Ann. Obama is pulling the plug on grandma! I hope so, after 2 weeks on a ventilator.
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Re: Obama slams Republicans for threat to blow up entire eco

Post by cronus » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:59 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24471623

Lew: Debt limit brinkmanship very dangerous

US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew has warned that pushing talks over the debt ceiling to the last minute could be "very dangerous".

He said that the US government could suddenly run out of money some time after 17 October, which would have "serious" repercussions.

He also warned that the Treasury's payment systems were not designed to work without funds for payment.

According to Mr Lew that would make it difficult to prioritise payments.

The current debt limit of $16.699 trillion was reached in May.

Since then the US Treasury has been using what are called extraordinary measures to keep paying the bills, but those measures run out on 17 October.

In his testimony before the Senate Finance Committee, Mr Lew said that the Treasury had big bills to pay soon after that date, including to hospitals and doctors under the Medicare scheme, to Social Security recipients, veterans and members of the armed forces.

Mr Lew underlined that, every week, the Treasury also has to refinance $100bn worth of debt in the form of US government bonds known as treasuries.

The US also has to pay interest on its huge debt burden.

An inability to pay that interest, or pay back debt if required, would put the US into default.

That would potentially have a "catastrophic" impact, according to Mr Lew, who cited a recent Treasury report.

Effects of a default would include a sharp fall in the dollar, a significant jump in US interest rates and negative effects on the global economy.

(continued)
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:08 pm

New York Times reporter calls the BO Administration the most closed, control freak administration ever. http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/05/n ... r-covered/

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:09 pm

Scrumple wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24471623

Lew: Debt limit brinkmanship very dangerous

US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew has warned that pushing talks over the debt ceiling to the last minute could be "very dangerous".

He said that the US government could suddenly run out of money some time after 17 October, which would have "serious" repercussions.

He also warned that the Treasury's payment systems were not designed to work without funds for payment.

According to Mr Lew that would make it difficult to prioritise payments.

The current debt limit of $16.699 trillion was reached in May.

Since then the US Treasury has been using what are called extraordinary measures to keep paying the bills, but those measures run out on 17 October.

In his testimony before the Senate Finance Committee, Mr Lew said that the Treasury had big bills to pay soon after that date, including to hospitals and doctors under the Medicare scheme, to Social Security recipients, veterans and members of the armed forces.

Mr Lew underlined that, every week, the Treasury also has to refinance $100bn worth of debt in the form of US government bonds known as treasuries.

The US also has to pay interest on its huge debt burden.

An inability to pay that interest, or pay back debt if required, would put the US into default.

That would potentially have a "catastrophic" impact, according to Mr Lew, who cited a recent Treasury report.

Effects of a default would include a sharp fall in the dollar, a significant jump in US interest rates and negative effects on the global economy.

(continued)

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

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Post by cronus » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:13 pm

Seldon crisis approaching. Anyone checked the Seldon vault for clues? :coffee:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:16 pm

Scrumple wrote:Seldon crisis approaching. Anyone checked the Seldon vault for clues? :coffee:
As i recall, the general response to an anticipated Seldon crisis was to go on about your business as usual, and to "do nothing." :biggrin:

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Re: Obama slams Republicans for threat to blow up entire eco

Post by cronus » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:24 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Scrumple wrote:Seldon crisis approaching. Anyone checked the Seldon vault for clues? :coffee:
As i recall, the general response to an anticipated Seldon crisis was to go on about your business as usual, and to "do nothing." :biggrin:
Don't mess up the pyhschohistorians number crunching. The next dark age may be brief enough to wipe out enough population whilst leaving enough intellectual power to deal with the existential threats of ongoing climate change. It can only be done one way. Rational types have to get their hands dirty with politics rather than leaving it to the low brow bullying types.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:27 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:New York Times reporter calls the BO Administration the most closed, control freak administration ever. http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/05/n ... r-covered/
Doesn't mean it actually is, not after Nixon's.
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Re: Obama slams Republicans for threat to blow up entire eco

Post by Tero » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:36 pm

Of course it is. If you were the first black president, what would you do?

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Re: Obama slams Republicans for threat to blow up entire eco

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:44 pm

Scrumple wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Scrumple wrote:Seldon crisis approaching. Anyone checked the Seldon vault for clues? :coffee:
As i recall, the general response to an anticipated Seldon crisis was to go on about your business as usual, and to "do nothing." :biggrin:
Don't mess up the pyhschohistorians number crunching. The next dark age may be brief enough to wipe out enough population whilst leaving enough intellectual power to deal with the existential threats of ongoing climate change. It can only be done one way. Rational types have to get their hands dirty with politics rather than leaving it to the low brow bullying types.
I think Asimov's subtle joke was that in the books, psychohistory was all horse shit. LOL. They merely needed the idea of a "guiding hand" to keep everybody from going bat shit crazy.

Remember, nothing individuals did would effect psychohistory, so when a few blokes on Terminus thought there was a Seldon crisis did something or nothing couldn't make a difference. Even millions of people couldn't do anything. The only exception was someone like the Mule and the Second Foundationers who could control enough people's minds to make it make a difference. Psychohistory ended up being a big nothing, and the way was led by the Second Foundationers who used psychic powers to move events.

In short, Hari Seldon was full of shit.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:47 pm

Tero wrote:Of course it is. If you were the first black president, what would you do?
If I were a President as loved by the media as BO, I am not sure i would be less open with the media, and chase down "leaks" to the point of trodding on First Amendment Freedom of the Press, threaten journalists, refuses to hold press conferences, withhold information, and utilize the IRS to attack political opponents..... well, unless I really wasn't what i pretended to be, in which case I might be very concerned of that fact getting out....

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Re: Obama slams Republicans for threat to blow up entire eco

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:49 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:New York Times reporter calls the BO Administration the most closed, control freak administration ever. http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/05/n ... r-covered/
Doesn't mean it actually is, not after Nixon's.
The New York Times reporter in question was an Obama supporter, so his view on this holds a bit more weight because of that. And, it's not like anyone is seriously arguing that this Administration has been open and forthright or "transparent."

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