You guys and your guns...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

We've been shopping for Ayaan's first gun.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

Well? Wotcha gettin'?

[JimC]

I actually started this thread, not to be critical of the whole American gun thing, but as an attempt to understand it. Seth's response to my "3 strands" suggested I was at least approximately on the right track, although he too misunderstood my intentions...

[Ayaan]

Well? Wotcha gettin'?

Still shopping, but I've got a feel for what I want - a 9mm or a 380.

[Jason]

The majority of gun crime in the US would be eliminated if not for Blacks. While the small percentage of crazy Whites make the news, it is Blacks that are vastly over represented in that form of criminality. It's not gun control that is needed, but Black control through either segregation or deportation back to Africa. Of course some people are offended by this, yet when it comes to facts arguing against it they can only resort to name calling.

I've seen this trope countless times from Hollywood, but are there any proper study results which have accounted for socio-economic differences to support this?

From Hollywood?
Proper studies are frowned against by a UN anti-racist resolution, but all the evidence is already out there in US FBI statistics. Really, if I just presented enough evidence would it be that simple to turn you racist

No. I'm just wondering if you base your opinion on bare statistics without accounting for the many other pertinent variables.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

Couple of interesting tables here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_ ... by_country
South Africa waaay out in front in the firearms related homicides despite owning 1/7th the guns per capita America does.

[Jason]

Well? Wotcha gettin'?

Still shopping, but I've got a feel for what I want - a 9mm or a 380.

The 380 is a bit lacking in stopping power innit?

I recommend something chambered for .454 Casull

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I will see that Ayaan has an opportunity to fire a range of weapons and loads. When it feels right to her we will resume shopping for a weapon to match that.

[Jason]

Heh.. just a dumb joke.

That's a good plan 'Zilla. It's best to have a gun you're comfortable handling.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Heh.. just a dumb joke.

That's a good plan 'Zilla. It's best to have a gun you're comfortable handling.

She might be able to control a .454, I will not discount anything until she has her own range worked out to her satisfaction.

[Ayaan]

Whatever it turns out to be, it is going to have to have a small grip and be fairly light. I know I couldn't handle anything big and heavy -especially to start with.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Whatever it turns out to be, it is going to have to have a small grip and be fairly light. I know I couldn't handle anything big and heavy -especially to start with.

Hey, I could handle on at 19.

[Ayaan]

Whatever it turns out to be, it is going to have to have a small grip and be fairly light. I know I couldn't handle anything big and heavy -especially to start with.

Hey, I could handle on at 19.

That, dear, is not a handgun.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Whatever it turns out to be, it is going to have to have a small grip and be fairly light. I know I couldn't handle anything big and heavy -especially to start with.

Hey, I could handle on at 19.

That, dear, is not a handgun.

Did I tell you I want to buy a boat?

[Ayaan]

Whatever it turns out to be, it is going to have to have a small grip and be fairly light. I know I couldn't handle anything big and heavy -especially to start with.

Hey, I could handle on at 19.

That, dear, is not a handgun.

Did I tell you I want to buy a boat?

Why do you want a boat?